In this episode I sit down with Joshua Hawkins. He is a former World Youth silver medalist and three-time New Zealand champion over the 110m hurdles. He also holds the New Zealand national record for said event. He joins me for a korero and we talk about time management, how he overcame a career-ending injury, and the importance of rest.
In this episode I sit down with Joshua Hawkins. He is a former World Youth silver medalist and three-time New Zealand champion over the 110m hurdles. He also holds the New Zealand national record for said event. He joins me for a korero and we talk about time management, how he overcame a career-ending injury, and the importance of rest.
Hezron: 0:00
my good friend Joshua Hawkins joins me on some passion project as my first guest co host. And in this episode, we talk a little bit about his commitments between his athletics studies work and other parts of his life. This episode was actually really, really fun to record. So sit back, relax. And I hope you enjoy. Thank you. You're too far not to Dakota car talk. My name is his Ron Alban. And welcome to to passion, project to Passion Project is appalled cost aimed at those people who are wanting to take that first step towards making it heaven. Thank you so much for tuning in. And I hope you enjoy the show. Started recording, but just Well, we'll play it by am in your in your go. Cool, man. Let's lot. Thanks. We're joining us.
Joshua: 1:01
That's okay. You know I'm your homeboy
Hezron: 1:03
Kovar. So I'm Yeah, I'm like, I'm not the host of the show now, huh? Yes, sir. Thanks for having me on your show. I'm just real briefly man. What do you people based no you for?
Joshua: 1:20
Ah, I mean, I guess like the big thing will probably be, Ah, aesthetics. But that's just because I've done like a fix. And so that school it high school in it was even for you need. But, I mean, I feel like people know me for different reasons based on where they made me. So a lot of people that you need cunts like, Oh, that's the guy that does geography. And then I also happen to the ethics where people have tricks like, Oh, he does hurdles. And he's also doing masters. He gonna
Hezron: 1:49
say, This guy, everybody athletics and your muscles where we get e stop, stop, stop. So you want it is scholar athletes.
Joshua: 1:59
Why not? I'm not a student anymore. But, yeah, official will go the
Hezron: 2:04
cowman. So, like just touching on your arm, your masters for a great bore. So you were alluding to the fact that you were running at the same time. I am actually before we talk about doing that at the same time, give us a little bit of an insider's tip. What events? You specialized.
Joshua: 2:17
Yeah, so I do. I mainly specializing the hurdles, but also and focus on this prints as well because it's just really like, well, correlated, sided, one teeny hurdles, but also you like the 6100 and 200.
Hezron: 2:30
Don't you like the New Zealand record holder of something for one of the Yeah, some of that humble guy. Cool man. So you're running the 1 10 the 61 2 Um, all the while you were studying at uni. So you you mentioned the fact that you had recently completed your mosque close? Yeah. How did you sort of balance or your training and union the same time? That's you don't know him
Joshua: 2:56
like I know what I did. But at the same time, I can't say like, Oh, if you're doing this sort of thing, I could be doing the same thing in May. I'm like you do all of us, unlike you, just kind of like do your best and hope for everything to come. Like 40 other barns. They have no idea how I did it, because, like, there was times where I was like, I would like all child, go to work. I like something like the crazy says I did so I would go to work for, like, five hours. I work at Mainframe and I'll, you know, I'll go training. They're going to work for like, five hours, and then I still would have come. I hope it does. I'll be finishing work like 45 and I gotta go, buddy into uni because there was no where you stayed at home. So I'll go into union understudy, the affliction of three hours, pretty much all back to back with. The only reason between has been like a Dr Teacher venue.
Hezron: 3:41
That's insane, men. So, like you've mixed in your post grad studies with the fact that you're them like national record holder. That's pretty impressive in your humble about it, like
Joshua: 3:53
Well, uh, you know, it's like for me. I don't see it is any differently. I mean, like, when you like, break each thing down, you're like, Well, it's extra pretty impressive. But I mean, like, I just was like, Oh, this is what I'm doing.
Hezron: 4:05
I think that's what you need to do is to break things down and tow like separate them out. Because if it's so easy to be overwhelmed by these two mess of things,
Joshua: 4:14
yeah, for sure. I mean, like, I look at stuff like you like you're working like a full time job in the light you up. I'm gonna start this podcast, and I'm also gonna move to the Philippines in, like, three weeks. So, like that, How the hell is this guy doing this? Like, where's he getting the time? So but like like you said, if you break it down into individual things, you're like, OK, I'm doing the podcast now or I'm doing training now or undo my work. Now I'm doing by studying out. Like when you look at it individually, they're all things that you are capable is human being to do. But we're hardly like a mess of like or three. It's like,
Hezron: 4:44
far out. There's no one. Yes, yeah, Not that. I think that's exactly what I did in terms of how I broke down this This move to the Philippines this transitional period, cause if I look at the big picture, it's a big thing. I'm moving to another country, and I'm gonna be spending so much more money on top of whatever you spend at unique to try and make something out off off a dream. So for me, the way that I sort of looked at it was all right. I broke it down into little steps. The first step that the tape was actually purchased, that took it. And I think that was the biggest hurdle I had to jump over. So as soon as I bought the ticket, I took that as much as my first sort of little little victory. Yeah, um and you know, Well, what once I once I arrived there, you know, just take it one step at a time. Something about
Joshua: 5:35
100%. I agree with that as well, Like everybody. I'll do like those days rolls like Rochette within my thesis. And I was like, If I can just get, like 100 words done so that's like it which and we need a time. When I stopped, I stopped it right at the start of my thesis. But I got pretty efficient 1000 words. It's like 18 15 minutes. And I was like, Yes, we can call
Hezron: 5:55
it I think for something like that, men that there's actually quite a big thing because you need it. Sort of break it down into chunks of like, 100 ways. How long was your faces?
Joshua: 6:06
A maximum of 40,000 ways. But, Mama,
Hezron: 6:08
you got, like, 40,000 words again. And if you're looking that as Dang after, right, 40,000 words, Yeah, it's much easier to say. All right. Today I'm gonna spend five minutes on it. I'm gonna write 50 World yet and that'll be my three full today.
Joshua: 6:19
Yeah. I mean, I what you just said I'm like, that's exactly that's what I did. So you like the question for me? So yeah.
Hezron: 6:28
Oh, that's pretty, That man. So I'm with athletics. It's a very individual sort of baseball. Yes, a lot off the people that I know who are sportsmen or whatever. A lot of people who all of my friends who play sports, that's usually like a team base basketball. Get the show, Robbie. Whatever on the track, it's just you. And there's no other dudes or other dudes. How did you get in? How do you get into the zone where it's sort of like me versus the world kind of thing?
Joshua: 7:02
Was looking like pretty like pre race or just training or just in general,
Hezron: 7:06
that your whole sort of process to leading up to this. So you know, you could Spence, how many months or whatever just to run for 13 seconds. Where? Well, how do How do you put yourself into the sign for that?
Joshua: 7:18
I think I think it's kind of this very individual based on my opinion. Like I love grinding for like when I want to do something and I decide I'm like, Okay, we're gonna This is the go, and I'm gonna try Chief Diego, man, I'm, like, locked and ready to do whatever it could be. Trek could be anything so like, but like this content creation stuff like you doing as the exact same thing, except for under his hurdles not podcast or Otto, That's what EJ like. I'm just like I'm gonna do everything I can to get eggs,
Hezron: 7:49
Huh? Cool. Now I'm give us a little bit of a run through of the big events. You run it. So, um, you've run out things like youth Olympics. You've done that. A couple of I'd play if events.
Joshua: 8:06
Yeah. Yes, sir, I did, um, the Youth Olympics in 2000 teen Singapore added world use and Lille France. And then I did the would interest E games in 2017. In 2019 Taipei and Naples and yet, like it's big in terms of sport is the exact same. But just like the professionalism which you're exposed to is just different toward your what you experience in England. It's although what they're being said is the exact same as what New Zealand culture is like with the rugby just antics over there. So over Urban and John, I'm like the fastest Hurler. But then you go over there and you see these kids that are just crazy during, like, all sorts. But then it's the same thing when you already be over here. Like, you know, you do this, you might be really good at kicking. And this one dude, that's just like, what a wicked side ST. He's gonna just beck yourself, you know, like, Oh, man, he's gonna beat me because it's got two heads. Sidestep. Yeah, The exact same thing is just is the exact same thing. What you do in the zone, just with a little bit of different flair and culture,
Hezron: 9:14
it was quite funny that you bring up robbery. And in New Zealand I feel like a lot of the kids who I'm girl up, you know, and the coaches sort of identify them as being a fast runner. The initial reaction is not to say I reconnect. It's gonna be a fast let's go this place of rooms. Exactly. Let's play sevens or, you know, let's put this guy on the wing or a fullback or something like that, Yeah. Do you think that that has anything to do with why athletics is still growing? Sport and New Zealand? Whether it's not as though it's not as big as se Ra Beers? Well, because the question bottom all time. So with Robbie being so big here in New Zealand, do you think that it's sort of stifles the growth of athletics within using because so many of these talents had quick runners get sort of scouted to play on the wings or something like
Joshua: 10:06
that? I don't think I don't think necessarily like stunts it, but I think the opportunities that rugby presents itself with unusual in a just much, much greater. I mean, like, you know, you can get like, out of school. You could get like contracts with this with money, where is and like I got a I got a degree in all this stuff, but I never actually had the money come directly to me. It was just I just don't have a date at the end of it. So I'm like, That's cool. But, you know, I can't spend my non date money. Yeah, if you come out, it's good. You got, like, five grand minutes. You could spend five grand on one if you want
Hezron: 10:46
being. Ah, that's fair enough.
Joshua: 10:49
I know where you're coming in, but I think it's not necessarily like
Hezron: 10:52
that's not really bad thing.
Joshua: 10:53
I don't get a bit. I think I think ethics goes, like, really, really well with, like, every other life sport because, I mean, if you're fast on like the track, you're probably going fast on the nipple record. The record revealed the rugby league. It applies to everything is the same thing with swimming. Like if you're gonna be good, if you're fast for me, you're really gonna be good at water polo as well. Yeah, I don't I don't quote me on that. I don't do swimming, but just transfers over quite well to a lot of sports, So I don't think ethics is ever gonna be like completely
Hezron: 11:24
living in this country.
Joshua: 11:28
you'd be a lot of needs is a lot of things that needs to happen for it to be a bigger this country. I don't want to say never, because I mean, like, you know, I mean, at this current point, like I don't think in my lifetime it's gonna be like competitive was rugby.
Hezron: 11:40
Speaking of big things that happen in your lifetime with regards athletics, you you get You got to meet you saying, but when you came in,
Joshua: 11:49
you have no idea
Hezron: 11:49
what was that like? Men like you got the run a few blocks, starts with them like,
Joshua: 11:53
yeah, I mean, I think the thing, the thing that with new journal is we just like we're so isolated from the rest of the world. So, like, for me doing Felix, you Sam Bowers like this God. And he is, But then the same time, like you think of kids in Jamaica that trying to pursue regularly and the like Oh, my God, that's rich McCall. Yeah. So that's the exactly But hey, of like, we knew, like, for when you meet you saying But you're like, Oh, my God, He's like this crazy guy. But at the same time, we're ever going to make it like, Oh my God, that's using boat But they're like, Ah, you say he's training to gain. It's like the same thing when we see, like Richard, Cory, like Cafe or something that was off. I I Richie as if we know him like a little
Hezron: 12:39
thing about. So it's It's very perspective. Yeah, 100% like it's
Joshua: 12:45
like they're these amazing people, but they just regular people. So I think that the times the question just little Phil. It's like I was like, Holy crap. Listen, Jimbo, But at the same time, it's like he's just like a regular person. They just like crack strokes as well.
Hezron: 13:00
Yeah, yeah. On on the topic of Jamaican sprinters, you talked about your youth Olympics and Singapore 2010 for a little bit before there's this pretty cool photo that I remember seeing of you. You were in front off on our Macleod. Yeah, So that's what that's a little bit off who he is and what he's done now. And you beat this guy, right? Hey.
Joshua: 13:24
Yeah, He, uh he's progressed quite wealthy in this scene. Yes. So that was it. does actually. 2000 living, would you? So I'm a mama Cloud is the current. Oh,
Hezron: 13:33
I am sorry, dear. Would you?
Joshua: 13:35
Yeah. Um, he Okay, so I start in 2000 women. I went to good use games. Uh, Woody's championships and I got sick and 180 meters hurdles. That's the reason why I ended up becoming a Hitler. And yes, sir. Oh, Mama Cloud is the guy that fourth in their race, and he is the current Olympic champion. I've heard. I'm pretty sure he's of the current world champion as well. All right, He's had a few injuries and stuff for last year. I know he is world champion at one point, but if he's like the most recent So, yes, I and I ended up being the student. I had time. I like in just 16 17 year. No idea. Like how you're gonna progress or whatever, but yeah, I like that race looking back. And it was so stick. There was a guy. Um, So Omar McLeod, current Olympic will Olympic and world champion and is, um, 1,000,000,000 blushing, and he got third in their race and he's I think he's like rang like fifth in the world or fourth. And she's like like you know, Pesko Masa Little gut. Yeah, he's like he's beat that guy. All the thing Sounds like you're on a race that's stacked looking back at it now,
Hezron: 14:43
is he that Spanish? The his arm French, French. He's got the long hair, The donor. You
Joshua: 14:48
know, Pascal Pascal is one that has long here are Yes. Ah, yeah, It's just like it's crazy looking back at it like, um, you just see all these names that the timing is kind of like, Oh, he's from Jamaica. So he's gonna be fast and then, like, fast for 19 years like, Oh, shit, this is like Olympic champions. This guy's
Hezron: 15:07
straight on. Just do it. I just from seeing that photo bird and the fact that you were in front of the Jamaican dude, I remember at school assembly when they put that photo on, Yeah, I was like, Oh, shit, yeah, it's a bit different from 20 f. It explainable I traded up. Now that's so sick, man. And you also had the chance to run to run with some other big name.
Joshua: 15:33
Yeah, David over in 2014 years. So, um, the total seems quite like Stick. But David, all of it was like at, I think at the time, I think it was like the American dream into some of that. And, um, astray does a really good Drover bringing down all the athletes from, like, overseas, and they managed to get him down one year, and this was the first year that I was running. The senior high hurdles in is quite uncommon for, like, a young kid to kind of, like make the top tier races and like Australia, especially because they want the strain athletes. But I think it was quite a week here that you didn't have that many sprint headless, so I managed to sneak in and actually PB that right? So you raced against David Oliver as well. Look, I don't know if you're watching this later. If you listen, this podcast search stable over and here
Hezron: 16:17
is the Big Unit
Joshua: 16:18
is a you know, there's new 80 buses, the double decker, one operational model after him,
Hezron: 16:26
house. He's big big boy in Ah, he's Yeah, I remember watching their race. And,
Joshua: 16:34
you know, I'm not like not to say I'm like a massive I'm not. I'm not small.
Hezron: 16:38
No, you're not.
Joshua: 16:39
And the student made me look like, you know, like, you know, like the twelves and something. And they simply united's as Lily and I broke the seals like the 12 like the guys, dude,
Hezron: 16:48
because what I you six foot 61
Joshua: 16:50
down, like just under 60
Hezron: 16:52
61 wall of 80 85? Yeah. The steward would have been like what, Like birds like 96. But
Joshua: 17:00
I think not even his hide those like it was like Like it was like talk. Yes, whatever. But he was like, You know why I was, like, alive? Are you see? There's like, Jim guys. It's like the upside down triangle, like, literally. Like that guy was like the outside down truck
Hezron: 17:15
here. That's a bloody walk side Rescue boy is birth. But you've heard the quote. When when life gives you lemons, make lemonade. You ever win love in life? When when? When life gives you hurdles, you hurtle through them, right? Yeah. What What are some? What are some of the greatest cereals events of face in your journey toe? Get we are today. And how did you ever come to? I have, Uh
Joshua: 17:41
um Aah These different physical who, like Hurdle. So like And after the World Youth Championships, I ruptured my colleagues. That was that was a big hole for Mae. That was like a a lot of people at a time. We're talking me better. They're like, Yeah, this is like a Creon create ending injury for most people. So yeah, overcoming that and then obviously associated with this sort of stuff is the mental side. So I think that's I don't know. I don't know, just this is my opinion, but I just feel like it's, um underappreciated when it comes to sports people is that once you reach like a student like physical limit, like a lot of it's just the mental, like the difference comes mentally like mental emotional aspects like the big part, so associated with the physical injuries will be stuff like mental. So I've got a I'm getting told as Corey ending injury, and I need to figure out how to know, have it in my career, and there's a lot that goes into that. So just like me and mental, I curdles emotional hurdles, physical hurdles spiritually hurdles. Like all the cliche stuff, it's It's all they're vicious, specific examples of it. Yeah,
Hezron: 18:52
Yemen. The mental game off. Sort of being sold that you're probably never gonna be able to do this any any longer. That must have been pretty hard to swallow. Hard pill to swallow.
Joshua: 19:03
Yeah, about all stubborn as Victor is a like I remember the doctor saying that Well, that yelled, It's gonna take about, like, eight months in nine months, maybe. And I was like, I, like, made the decision and the like. I remember in the tight end the bid that has a nose like he's like, 89 months. And I was like, Now, Graham, the innocents sex later. Ah, I think I think as an athlete, you need whoa as an individual effort as well. And being a sprint that you have to be stubborn. Man, you gotta be like that box of mentality. Real like, you gotta going to fight, like, you know, you can't be like, Oh, I'm gonna lose this.
Hezron: 19:35
No one else is gonna throw this hook except for me.
Joshua: 19:37
Yeah, I like that. Thinks I don't know. I think I was quite lucky when I was younger. Especially like not really think Just like little fuck it.
Hezron: 19:46
Yeah, that's also like the recovery phase off the recovery part of your training. That's almost just as important as the training part,
Joshua: 19:56
right? It's like like the most important part for me the moment.
Hezron: 19:59
Yeah, I think also when it comes Thio, you know, recovering mentally as well. I think people in the corporate world let's say that training full athletics is like you're actually working in the corporate world you need you need be ableto you need to be able to have time off into just zone out and to just, you know, um, recollect everything and just come back together. And, you know, I just
Joshua: 20:25
I think like that's like, That's a big a big thing that you just poured up because one of those I studied flex succeeding years. I'm so I'm kind of deviated away from what you just said, but like t talked about, like being a switch off like that, being a very real important part. Where is the thing with your student? I think a lot of students don't really understand. It starts out really about time. Actually, start to figure it out. They almost ended out the university system that they never fully ghetto understand it, but because I was like, 67 years understanding win two races important. Bring your student a lot of time. You go to classes, you gotta use tutorials, and then you come home and you go study. And the only time that you really switch office when you gotta go sleep because you have to Cedar. Like I feel like a lot of students don't actually get, like, the switcheroo, period. And I that culture, I feel like sometimes transfers over into the working world where it's just, like work,
Hezron: 21:18
work, work, work, work, work, work.
Joshua: 21:19
And you like making some money. But at the same time, you're just exhausted. You don't even get time to enjoy that.
Hezron: 21:25
Yeah. I mean, what's the point of making all that money? Like you said if you didn't even have the chance to build? Enjoy. You know what? The things that meta the ones that like you know, you can't put a price on things like, you know, your family and your friends doing shit like this. You're recording a podcast like like we could be at work right now. You know what I mean? Like, but I'm we are working by throwing the ma. You gotta get the ad revenue Patriot cook on the link below. Yeah, whatever. But anyway, um, social media, but you've recently started are not recent. You've You've got this gaming channel. Tell us a little about that, man.
Joshua: 22:09
Yes, sir. I don't know her. Like, I've always had, like, this thing for, like, concentration and like, back. You know, back in the days when used to function shelter those boys, they
Hezron: 22:19
function or nine Berries,
Joshua: 22:20
they're back at school, at least of all. So anyway, ah, heart leans back up just a little bit before that. I remember when I was like you and I in his room made this video on YouTube and I was like,
Hezron: 22:30
You know, we don't have to talk about that, man. I never thought
Joshua: 22:32
that that that's that's where it's kind of inspired me a little bit. So, like, you put this video and I just like I thought Cajun was, like, the coolest thing in the world. And I was like, You almost died a YouTube.
Hezron: 22:41
I thought of giving me a bit too much credit than I deserve, not
Joshua: 22:44
about seriously there. And then and then I was like, yeah, under this YouTube thing. And then we found a couple boys at school. Is that every Friday, come down the crew pitch and we're doing the same move like a year and 1/2. And we still ripped the YouTube up. Um, yes. And then I ended up like I always I've always had this thing for, like, YouTube in in like, over the years. Like, I don't know. You just find it hard to, like, make content. One thing that I felt like I did try for a while was flogging, and I'm gonna try. You bet. Not necessarily of logging. I'm gonna try to get back into, like, Iro Clinton, but I Yes, I post a lot of gaming stuff in the moment. So it's just like Fortnight montages itself of it, and I I just like I like I'm because I'm like, doing sports all the time. I don't really get like, creative outlet, and at the moment like this is one like my biggest creative outlets. The yard's put up for, like, how many finished about little things like 34 videos over the last. Like
Hezron: 23:37
there's quite a bit Pearl.
Joshua: 23:39
Yes. Ah, What I try to do is I try to do. I tried. I mean, at first I didn't. I was like, Get up. Let's much like Han. And then I was like, Yo, this is actually pretty hot. Understood? Like, once a week, so I don't think it's actually called montage Mondays.
Hezron: 23:52
Okay. What, like a wiki? Sigmund?
Joshua: 23:54
Yes, I I played I played every Monday sort of thing, So just sort of trying to express myself all those more or less the same thing every single time. I should get, like, a bit of a kick out of it. I
Hezron: 24:04
think the most important thing when it comes to something like content creation, is to be consistent with Yeah, you know, like and to just start because, you know, you could always put something like that off, you know, like, I'll just record a podcast or record a game like, later on. I'll do it next week or whatever. Um, 34 men. That's that's quite looking looking
Joshua: 24:24
looking. Because I remember the fifth video I made. I was like, Yeah, I'm just gonna just do one. And then I like you, kind of get a kick out of making a video of you playing and the like, 00 that'll be cool in the video And then, you know, you have, like, so got to sort of videos. And then next thing you know, you just got enough for, like, a whole video like, Oh, I'll make one more than you rescued the only going in there like I was like, Oh, crap. I've actually done like the routine of it is
Hezron: 24:49
Where can we find you? By on?
Joshua: 24:51
Just look up, Josh Hawkins on your table jelly A shot just like this My game Take a mango jelly jelly O shots O j e l l Y o is h o T.
Hezron: 25:03
Look it up, guys. Look out one of your videos, but has
Joshua: 25:07
ah, yes, I had I don't know how the you should have thought of that. I don't know how that I don't
Hezron: 25:13
like my knee. Thousands?
Joshua: 25:14
Yes, I got 90,000 views on this one video, and I was like, What? And heard that? I'll be honest. There was another reason why I was like actual 90,000. Yo i'ma make
Hezron: 25:23
this like a thing, Michiko. I'll be happy with blood in 90. I'll be happy with nine
Joshua: 25:30
toes. That's the thing. That was like A lot of my videos will only get like couple views, but I think the thing with content creation and social media you have to do it for yourself. If you're doing it for views. It's so tough because, yeah, the YouTube out walk this fine enough from YouTube. But like the YouTube, our core of them, like, is really cutthroat. It's like you get like, one big video and you had time to produce some of the content, and then you're pretty much sauced. But it's just like if you're trying to do it for you, like if you if you like, you're gonna make a YouTube channel today and you're like, I'm gonna try, get a 1,000,000 views are a 1,000,000 subs by the end of the year, I've had my YouTube channel 13 years and he corrects like 90 K views on like the TV SA.
Hezron: 26:12
I mean, I think it's, um, a fair enough initial sort of once. If you say you want to become a viral or whatever. Like I am gonna do it for the view is gonna do it for the club Hundreds. But I think people will see right through that. Endo immediately tell disguise any just doing it for that? Yes, really? You can really tell when someone's actually quite passionate about what they're creating putting out there between the guy who says, you know,
Joshua: 26:35
yes. I mean, like, obviously when I was like when I first made the channels like, you're not gonna get a day job because I love you too, But, uh, that didn't work up.
Hezron: 26:43
Maybe the dreaming,
Joshua: 26:44
But, um, yes, look what I realized. Everything is if you do want to get into conjuring creation, just focus on like, trying to connect with people and, like, make relationships like how you genuinely would without the content there. Yeah, and like, you know, you have, like, people like supporting you. So one of the things that I did want with my former stuff was I wanted to get a support. A credit card is basically we have people who watch Akane Thinkinlike support, you know, So they purchase something in the shop and in effect games if he won't hurt for might give you a percentage. And so what I I I ended up getting occurred, and I don't have many people using it. But it's like the relationships that I've made with these good people that actually is my current. It's like they use it for is like if you get like a 1,000,000 views and no, no one was actually using the girls like right. It's like, That's cool, but it's like That's not going anywhere.
Hezron: 27:37
It's like when you make you know your first, like three bucks or your 1st 1 bowler. Yeah, I made that you ever and they didn't buy me a dollar bag of lollies that feels it is wealthy. But with someone when
Joshua: 27:49
someone buys you, the dollar bag lives just like you, like. This is
Hezron: 27:52
better. The food always tastes better when it's free. Fire out, man. So to the person who has all these ideas in their mind, saying I want to create something, what would you say?
Joshua: 28:07
Do it bar just a little honestly, stop one. The main reason why I was like, Man, I want to play more YouTube videos on Ralph and more you chew it is but the root of this problem. Reason why did the gaming stuff was? I didn't have a camera at the time, but I could, like, record stuff on my PlayStation. So I was like, I don't got the camera black. I got something to put content out. Like just do it. Um, I know people that get real with you, like your but I already got an iPhone. Like I can't recall just for a quart of the iPhone. Who kids, If you If you like the video, you like the video. Don't worry about it,
Hezron: 28:39
huh? That's it's amazing how many, like iPhone photographers there are here. And they literally us using the iPhone or
Joshua: 28:48
the new iPhones and nuts as well. I think from, like, seven up semen ups like the I found semen up like nuts. Quality
Hezron: 28:57
African old finds nowadays. Just, you know, all the modern ones are just amazing. In terms of what you can do. You hear
Joshua: 29:03
the dimmer. They're all Naki is. We had a dating you had,
Hezron: 29:04
like the SD card straight up for,
Joshua: 29:07
like, 32 megabytes. Your whole like 16
Hezron: 29:09
songs. How about those ones? Were you you flick it up in the open. Like whatever that was. That was like, l something big energy big. And then the bloody ah, that Motorola raisel by energy. Like flip phone boy, it's quite fine that we're talking about this. We old now, huh? In the previous episode, I was talking about my dreams. Sort of stemming from me watching a VHS tape. Really? What did you mean, what?
Joshua: 29:36
I mean, I'm excited. The initials for delivery up this morning.
Hezron: 29:39
And I basically just talked about how I had this vision of h s state when I was a kid. And it was all about, like, planes and helicopters. And that's what's so started for me. It was used.
Joshua: 29:50
Do you think about that stuff sometimes. Like the stuff that, like influences, like a person's like life. Like we like we didn't know, like, Okay, like all your into plans, Like, you know, it came from, like, this VHS tape, right? And then, like a measures you never ever got their VH VHS tape like, where would you be now? Like that stuff blows my mind. I think by that stuff all the time
Hezron: 30:10
held different with my life. People for the paper like feels like some Wall Street like documentary like It's broken now on I wanna trade and stocks, Man. It feels like I'm just
Joshua: 30:21
completely, you know, even doing this podcast right now. But you didn't get
Hezron: 30:23
the day I'll be told my phone off. Yeah, it's it's amazing Thio to see about. It's amazing to think about events that happened, you know, in the past, that sort of shape you and mold you and so what you are today and you know, But that's that's that's some stuff right there. I mean, very late. You and I believe Bean, we invoice. For eight years, we've been through a lot of shit. That's what I like. That's what you say. Like like the stuff that mo jails like, broad way going there. Yeah. Um, now that was Yeah. Bye.
Joshua: 30:59
Honestly, I would not change that for anything. That was a great experience. Like I shaped me so much. Australia. All right, do in touch on that or
Hezron: 31:08
not? Oh, I mean, treated as we bled
Joshua: 31:12
out for, like, the whole team viewers of the moment.
Hezron: 31:16
Max Also your Facebook brothers like semen. Human like maybe, you know, ever I mean, you know, like I said, I'll be happy with 90 You know, like go. Um, who will say there for another episode of Definitely
Joshua: 31:30
has a meaning for Silverado.
Hezron: 31:32
Something worth that's different. Something worth talking about, I think in sharing to the world, cause, um, and then there's being, like, all bro straight, huh? Showed up. I mean, the relationships that you form, Um, but especially the ones that you know will last through the rest of your life. You know, like far Haji. Yeah, because yeah, I remember when we're back in primary school. Bo is when Montcalm Overseas. Yeah. Mary's where they play soccer game way would've been a war. Didn't you guys cook us?
Joshua: 32:11
You guys head like you got have stepped in and she like camera Lynch,
Hezron: 32:13
You Really? Yes. For the verse that I will, I'll take it. It was it was a game of soccer, but the school looked like a damn game of basketball. But our school is your
Joshua: 32:24
Ah, I remember you like I'm you guys had something like quick boys in the village. I was like, We're gonna get cooked.
Hezron: 32:32
I also storm when we usedto used to run Brought together the, uh, four by 100 gold or the the old white Penis T shirts from like that? Yeah, buddy. Oh, man, I missed today. I really miss about life letter instead. What? Barry Gibb, Stop the podcast. Get back of the triple job way. We're just saying, Oh, if you wanna do something, go out on a freaking door, right, Let's go. Let's go. Doing out. It's quite funny, man. Because ever since I started, you knew one of the excuses that I gave myself to not continue was I didn't have enough time and hearing about the things that you've sort of done. You know, we both have 24 hours in the day. I think where I sort of fell down was It's not that I don't have enough time. I just didn't have proper time management. Yeah, and I think a lot of people suffer from that now, especially when you know it all. We get the quote unquote busier we get. Um I think we're sort of neglect these things. Yeah,
Joshua: 33:31
but I mean, like to play the opposite sides of the argument like, do you move back in high school and your 10 year living. You're like, bro. I've got this, like, 300 word English, you say? I don't know how that's how I'm going to get it done. And then, like, literally, like, 10 years later, I'm doing like 40,000 word thesis are always that kid. I was that kid in, like, I'm English. I didn't read the book. It always, like, wait for even read aloud And then just like wing it
Hezron: 34:01
are like you got a damn muscle degree world.
Joshua: 34:06
No, but yes, anyway. But, like, you know what I'm talking about, Like at that at that time in your life. Feel like broad ago time, Phyllis and the like. We look back, you like, I live here. I need to do, like, five algebra questions. What do you mean? I didn't have time. So, like looking back it like when you were a union. Now you're like, I don't have time looking back at you like, uh, probably could have. But as long as gonna learn from, I think that's where you get the value in the listen.
Hezron: 34:32
That's definitely where it's most important The fact that you've learned something from because if you don't take anything away from your life experiences, then the helmet.
Joshua: 34:41
It's like I have this, like, weird. I don't know if, like, kind of works with this pose, like you either win or you learn. And sometimes I would much rather lose and learn rather than winning, cause if you when you don't let anything, huh? If you win, you're not gonna change anything. Just like what I want.
Hezron: 34:56
Yeah. I mean, what you did to win like it works, obviously. Why would you change that? Because if you do
Joshua: 35:01
hustle hard, then when you lose, man, like if you get like, Oh, you always like a good shooting arm. I used to get like munchies four. And I was like, We're all working hard for the H IV and you get, like, nearly mirror in July. She lets go. Mom, guess what I got to, like, Merit. You like, while nearly
Hezron: 35:20
murder the yen. Ah, that's that's definitely somethingto chew on Bo. Um, did you have anything sort of clothes off within? Turns off, Um, people who might be too scared or too reluctant do something like following a dream.
Joshua: 35:45
Yeah. I mean, 100% like I think It's a natural, like human response to come. It's like, be like, overwhelmed or like too scared or whatever the situation may be. But then at the same time, like that's not gonna happen unless you try. And then, like I said before, you're the one that you learn. And if you lose, like if you If if you don't achieve what you set out to do, you learn something. And if you want to try to gain, you just not do that like eventually you're going to get right. You know, like if you want to get like a viral video, you try for the first year and I don't get it. You tried sinking and you keep going on 20th you get of Arboria bigger, like 35. You still got that viral video knowing?
Hezron: 36:27
Take that with me. What have you put on line? It's gonna be forever. Your man cave, You go here hard like and subscribe was a jelly jelly A shot way Go. You heard it. Here, brother. Thank you so much for taking time out of your day. Thio, join us here on the hill on passion Joining me for a bit of a Let's go