In this episode I sit down with Chris Trenuela and we talk about going against the status quo to walk your own path. He’s made some calculated risks in life and he can say with complete confidence that they’ve paid off. One of these “risks” was not to pursue a degree. He completed a Certificate in fashion design and went into the workforce immediately after. Starting off in retail management, his climb up the corporate ladder was rapid. Within two and a half years he moved into a Business Banking Manager role for the largest bank in New Zealand, which goes to show that it’s all about motivation, mindset and attitude. The hungrier you are, the more bread you’ll get.
Both being born and having grown up in Aotearoa, we also discuss what it’s like to be in the land of our blood, and how perspectives have changed between childhood and now.
This is pretty much just a candid conversation between two dickhead brothers who had nothing else better to do than to talk smack.
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In this episode I sit down with Chris Trenuela and we talk about going against the status quo to walk your own path. He’s made some calculated risks in life and he can say with complete confidence that they’ve paid off. One of these “risks” was not to pursue a degree. He completed a Certificate in fashion design and went into the workforce immediately after. Starting off in retail management, his climb up the corporate ladder was rapid. Within two and a half years he moved into a Business Banking Manager role for the largest bank in New Zealand, which goes to show that it’s all about motivation, mindset and attitude. The hungrier you are, the more bread you’ll get.
Both being born and having grown up in Aotearoa, we also discuss what it’s like to be in the land of our blood, and how perspectives have changed between childhood and now.
This is pretty much just a candid conversation between two dickhead brothers who had nothing else better to do than to talk smack.
To support Te Passion Project please consider subscribing to us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts or Youtube. You can find out more about the show on tepassionproject.com, where you can also support by purchasing a Te Passion t-shirt. We’ve got a whole bunch of colours available and each purchase helps keep the show afloat.
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in this episode, I sit down with Chris Trend Wella and we talk about going against the status quo to walk your own path. He's made some calculated risks in life, and he can say with complete confidence that they've paid off. One of these risks was not to pursue degree. He completed a certificate in fashion design and went into the work force immediately after starting off in retail management has climb up. The corporate ladder was rapid. Within 2.5 years, he moved into a business banking manager role for the largest bank in New Zealand, which goes to show that it's all about motivation, mindset, attitude hungrier you are, the more bread you'll get, both being born and having grown up in altered way. Also discussed what it's like to be in the land of our blood and how perspectives have changed between childhood and now. This'll is pretty much just a candid conversation between two ticket brothers who had nothing else better to do than to talk smack to support to Passion Project. Please consider subscribing to us on Spotify apple podcasts, Google podcasts or YouTube. You can find out more about the show It's a passion project dot com waken also support by purchasing a depression T shirt. We've got a whole bunch of colors available, and each purchase helps keep the show afloat. Your afar nuts in Dakota car talk. My name is history on Alban and welcome to to passion Project Passion Project is appalled cost aimed at those people who are wanting to take that first step towards making it happen. Thank you so much for tuning in. And I hope you enjoy the show. All right, It's hot hot mikes. National hot max again. Dude, When the Philippines
spk_1: 1:46
Philippines Man, this is like the last last night that I have here is Well, this is this is super. Your super spontaneous
spk_0: 1:55
super special is workers. When was the last time we soldiers? When? Before I left, right?
spk_1: 1:59
Yeah, exactly three months. It was pretty much just before you left. Was with all the boys. Yeah, and we're saying goodbye. Yeah. Say the old said the wells of your fam and stuff of that
spk_0: 2:10
meat is actually so sad, man. Um, I miss home so much,
spk_1: 2:15
I can tell. I could tell.
spk_0: 2:18
Um I talked about this on one of my stories. One of things I missed a lot about home has been radio. He saw that it was radio him in like it's not It's pretty late. It's not the best way. Just the humor, bro.
spk_1: 2:33
Yeah, that by a few of those guys.
spk_0: 2:35
Yeah, they don't have a stuffy. And I think it's growing up in a place like museum where it sze real chill there. So people the jokes that people make her Just so you know,
spk_1: 2:46
you know what? I was saying that to, um, one of the boys that we were one of your boys. Sorry that you introduced me to about how everything in New Zealand's a lot Maur informal and everything. He has a lot more formal. So I think it comes from that perspective as well is that New Zealand's just really got that laid back chill attitude. So, like everything's just funnier, I think I mean, that's my perspective. None of that for sure.
spk_0: 3:09
How's it being in the country for you? Because obviously we're both born in New Zealand, you know, like all Filipino blood. What's it like being back in the motherland?
spk_1: 3:16
It's It's buzzy men. It's, um it's really cool. I mean, I've bean so far my trip. I've bean from, like my dad's hometown, which is not like a Steliana. I'm being too. Mom sometimes just double, um done Subbu Manila and kind of broker like, sort of everything else in between. It's really different from what I remember is that the last time I was here in Philippines was 13 years ago, and that was when I was a kid. So you see it through a lot and I'm not seeing it there like my idolize. That's It's It's It's crazy. The lifestyle here is crazy. I think the first thing I told you about the traffic bridles Yeah, not
spk_0: 3:54
that's a major adjustment,
spk_1: 3:56
right? I couldn't vote for Manila's not.
spk_0: 3:59
It's fun. All the traffic. What? We're used to traffic back home in Oakland's cute right?
spk_1: 4:03
Yeah, for sure. And that's they're like this. There's no rules here. I mean, obviously, you know, you got your your three lanes. When you're two lanes in New Zealand, you stick to that. You got three lanes here in Philippines of tunes to five
spk_0: 4:15
seconds. It fits. It fits right in his fucking jam. It in big thanks Yeah, well, what? What? What you were saying earlier about looking at the place, You adult eyes. It's very eye opening, right person. Once you're a bit older, you understand the way that things work a little bit more 100%. I'm comparing it back. Toe the views as a child, you know everything that you quite innocent as a kid, right?
spk_1: 4:39
Yeah. And you and you do realize I mean and you hear it a lot when you are a kid and you're you're whether it's your uncles, aunties or parents telling you don't realize how lucky you are until you actually are here and you see their way of living and and the lifestyle. And obviously, you know, when you're when you bring the New Zealand dollar over here and you live, you live quite nice. So kind of seeing it from that perspective as well has really changed a lot of things in terms of how I see things as well. I mean, I've kind of already know net. But seeing it through the adult, I has really, suddenly into debt perspective for me. So not it's it's been good being human. It's been really good.
spk_0: 5:19
One of the most humbling experiences for me so far as seeing the distribution of wealth in this place. There's a lot of rich people in this country, and there's also a lot of poor people. And the difference between the two is just so vast in New Zealand, it's a bit more blurred. The lines between the classes.
spk_1: 5:41
Yeah, yeah. No, I definitely agree. Definitely agree.
spk_0: 5:44
Working class, middle class, whatever. Ever, ever like because I'm based in B g c, which to me it's sort of like a bubble in the Philippines. To me, it doesn't feel like the Philippines. It doesn't feel like the Philippines that I know. Yeah, and luxury to two K's down the road. It's such a difference in what the buildings look like. You know, you got my skyscrapers on one street, you that you cross the road and then corrugated iron roofs, hollow block walls. Yeah, bro.
spk_1: 6:17
It's crazy, eh? Like I mean, as I said, like throughout all the cities, and I'm kind of being through those fires, you see it change it when you go to obviously the provinces or whatever. You just see how they're living. But but also in the same sense. It's like their happiness doesn't change. You know, they, they stay happy or they will make do with what they have. But just I think for me that was the most humbling thing, Man, this guy's well, this kid is having the most fun, too easy of a head in his life. And he's only playing with, like, a couple of sticks. I kind of like toying around with a spider or something like that. You know what I mean? Um, that that's crazy that you don't realize how lucky you are until you see that
spk_0: 6:56
All the other times that I've been here, like I've been on holiday and when you're on holiday in a place doesn't really it's not really like reality when you're when you're in that country for maybe, like being immersed in in life here, just bossy vote. It's different day. It's so buzzy
spk_1: 7:16
a bit a bit. It would be, I mean, what you've been here three months and a lot
spk_0: 7:22
of conveniences that we're used to something as simple as pay wave.
spk_1: 7:26
Yeah, you know, that's that's one of my mates talking is here, Madam Cash. It does
spk_0: 7:31
everything's cash based. And then you gotta wait for your receipt. You gotta wait for the bill. What? Have Ah,
spk_1: 7:37
yeah, it's that that whole that whole concept of just everything being cash, obviously like, you know, it's It's cash is going, baby. Yeah, friend. A light you just be wanting to spend about. Even you just so usually kind of being ableto no worry about anything when it's on the card, obviously. And, um, but then, you know, you're like, Oh, it might be might cost this much. Man. I don't have any cash to be just withdrawal real quick. So it's it's it's it's it's a different way of operating. Kind of like you're you're really, like, monitoring how much you have. No, that's tough stuff, but that's how they do it. They were You still all
spk_0: 8:12
right? Speaking of money, but to tell us what you do for that
spk_1: 8:16
s o. I work for bank, um, currently a business banking manager for aliens. It put the shot out. No, no, no, no. That's already like today. No, no. Yes. Yeah, we're from Ain't the chalice means it. Um, yeah, of, um, been currently doing business banking manager man. So that's that's what I'm doing for my for my bread. At the moment, it's Ah, it's different. It's different, especially for for what I envisioned myself doing. But, I mean, the crew, the culture there and stuff will have, as is Coleman suds. I'm enjoying it for now.
spk_0: 8:57
That was one of the main questions that I had for you. But is your journey through the bank because obviously we work in the same place where but yet very corporate place. You know, climbing the corporate ETA corporate letter. The race is a race year. The red. Now it's sort of there's a what you call it steering stereotypical view on the corporate life that, you know, you sort of need a piece of paper. You know, you need a degree to tell someone that, you know you're qualified to do certain kinds of work. Yeah, but I'm for you, man. Like you didn't really go down the traditional pathway of our night. That s o your movement through the bank has bean quite rapid and quite successful. Thanks. But you know, you didn't go through the whole the whole unified mint.
spk_1: 9:51
No, I am. It doesn't take eso. Yeah, to touch on that. I, um I studied a c p i t crash. It's politically institute, um, now called Ara. If for those of us who live in the other three Christchurch Yeah, that's the home man. That's my motherland. Um, so I studied fashion design, which is quite funny. There's
spk_0: 10:20
a total correlations between fashion and banking, right?
spk_1: 10:23
Yeah. Absolutely. Um and you did that for, like, a year. And that's that's really where I saw myself. Like, I really envisioned myself pushing their all the way through. Um, but I think like, one year after studying, I was just about to enter my second year and then they during some of my time off study and that picking up a part time job as you do, um, was working for added s at the time, and they more or less off it. I was only a part time and just kind of had that hostiles mentality of trying to get as much ours as I could whenever I could. And I think I just said it. I stole that I mean decided to offer me like a I am the assistant manager's role. I just jumped on it, man. I was You know what? It's going to be full time hours. I'm gonna be in a celery. Um, and obviously still in love with fashion. I envisioned myself getting to hit office. So from day one, I kind of just had this, like, hostiles mentality of light. All right, let me just get to the bag. I personally think studying was really for me in there anyways. Later. I'm just I'm more on the practical more just jumping right in
spk_0: 11:28
tactile learner. I think
spk_1: 11:29
that's the look. And, um, I mean, toe to kind of. Obviously after that, I did the standard route where, you know, you're assistant manager. Manager um, moved my weight. Oakland hits. That's when we obviously reconnected. Amended the the managing stint in the brutal Mart store. The originals concept store. Um, and being I kind of just Yeah, I kind of just your up from there. Um, there was just a circumstance that came across where I left Eddie. Guess and I decided to just be unemployed, essentially for about a month. Hedda pains it, and they they employed me, and it's bean rapid. I've only been here for 2.5 years. And yeah, a lot of my colleagues and sort of senior leaders would say 2.5 years to get to the position that I'm in was pretty pretty quick. So I've been told. So I'm pretty pretty happy, pretty blissed toe to be in the position that I'm in the numb. Yeah, that that quick, I kind of get it. Did it
spk_0: 12:32
really does go to show that it's experience that really counts towards your progression in your career. Whether it is a creative sort of pursuit or something more corporate, it doesn't really matter to me tossing you wait, like, obviously your your perfect example off this yet where you don't need a bloody degree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Toe be quite successful in something as corporate as a bank.
spk_1: 12:58
Yeah, No 100% I think. I mean, look, I think I think the main thing is I mean, what what? I've different told people that have asked about it. Um is really just that hostage mentality that I'm that mob mentality. Our species p men. But it's really about having that mentality were it doesn't matter which route you're going to take. You got an angle and you just just stay on it like just hustle hard for each and every day. Put in some work on dhe, whatever that might be in the way of with its physical work. If that's what your goals going towards, what kind of just if it's that corporate game, which is, you know, understanding your client's a bit more or talking to certain colleagues on connecting with different leaders. T leave him there who you are, putting your face up there. Don't settle for just hiding in the shadows. If if you really want to be successful, man, you just gotta go for it. Um and you just got to stay comforting yourself. Push hot. Um, otherwise, I mean you you really wouldn't be really, If I didn't want to do that, then I probably would be stuck in that same position where OK, maybe I do need to go back to union. Whatever, cause I'm choosing not to to go that route or beat Spain really, really safe. Um, I think I put myself in a position where I was a lot more exposed and Asian parents Philippine appearances. They're always pushing on you. If you haven't studied or some other event. My parents were always gassing on me, like when you're gonna study when you could have, you know, get that piece of paper for the peace of mind or whatever. Um, I think so. I had that that weight on my shoulders to say, OK, I need to push highlights so that I can show them that that there's this route that I'm taking is still gonna work for me.
spk_0: 14:42
Do you think you'd still be experiencing the same kind of excessive, same kind of success story if he did go to union? Did get that degree Because the next three years of your life that, you know, you could have bean working, for example. You know, you said 2.5 years to get to where you are today.
spk_1: 14:56
Yeah. I mean, I'm not an interesting sure. It's some. I feel like my time. The way I chose to do it was, um, differently. Well managed or like, you know, like it was It got me to where I am in terms of I guess where I wanted to be financially and certain things that I wanted to achieve. Um yeah, like you said. I mean, I I would have had least less experience. Wouldn't have jumped into the mid management route, Um, as early as I did. And I guess at the same time I would have had a lot more of a student learning already paid off machine. Learn by this point by point that I'm in right now. If I keep studying up, we would have had a much bigger ones, and it would be like coming out my paycheck and heard and broke. That would have been heard and really that
spk_0: 15:49
because, let's say quite a chunk, boy, when you have to repay all that, imagine being able to go back to school with the murders that we know today. 100. Imagine that, man.
spk_1: 15:59
Yeah, I wish I said a lot of life if I was, you know, whatever. I'm 18 19 and had the numbers that I have right now, like a man out of gas in that life at that time.
spk_0: 16:12
But then again, I guess we got to go through all these learns rightto get to where we are. Because how boring would it be if you were just given all this knowledge at the very beginning. And then you know that, right? Exactly. And there's no way that you or I would have gotten to where we are right now having this conversation and in the Philippines about, you know, about this. Yeah. If it was all spoon fits of us, yeah, it was a ll, you know, easy,
spk_1: 16:37
100%. And ultimately, it doesn't make your character as well is like going through the years going through the motions of getting too the position. Um, yeah, it makes your character. So it does teach you a lot more and helps you become stronger and all that type of stuff as well.
spk_0: 16:54
That's one of things I noticed here is, although it's it's so funny that there's a lot off. That's who you know. Yeah, it's not due to the merits of your of your talent or or your character that you've got into where you are. There is definitely an element off connections here. Yeah, I mean, it's the same back home both, like to an extent yet, but it's like the Wild West,
spk_1: 17:20
yet it's It's a very cut through here. It's very comfortable. Um, I mean men about. I've only seen it. Like I said through my adult Liza Zaire court, Um, over the past month. But even even through that, I can already see kind of how come 30 years in terms of just, like also like who you know, and how you can kind of slide your way through with that person to kind of get to that in expeditions. No, I see that
spk_0: 17:45
on that hole. It too. You know, thing. It's Israel interesting with the with all social media thing, because everyone's so connected now. Yeah. And before you even came to the Philippines, you know, you already sorting out a tattoo artist to do a couple of new extra pieces? Yeah. Yeah, just tell us. What about that,
spk_1: 18:02
You know? So, um, it was it was kind of just a matter of it was perfect. Perfect cigarette as well. Like, it is a matter of kind of just reaching out to, you know, three people more or less. Um, which is one included yourself, Um, one my boy Raymond. And two for entire. And, you know, all three of these people or three of y'all were kind of just like sweet. Here's an artist in this city on, and they specialize in this. And there's an us and then, you know, it was kind of just like it was simple. Is just going to there I g looking at their work and going sweet.
spk_0: 18:38
That's what I'm after.
spk_1: 18:38
Yeah, I want your work on this part of my arm. And I want your work on this part of my home, and I want your work on my leg or whatever, and then met up with them and had sold it better. Um, quality of the work. Is it back of love? My tats shadow to him. Um, yeah. I was just so easy to kind of just do that. So no super, super easy to be connected. And social media really does that for us. It's found riel.
spk_0: 19:04
So tell us about the pieces of men. The ones that got done here. Well, what did you get?
spk_1: 19:08
So, uh, acting like everybody can seem, um, it was just kind of a couple of Eddins. Um I went to redeem tattoo shadow to Gellar Epic Odyssey, specializing that minimalized tattoos and stuff like that. So those tattoos that I did with him or more about my faith in my religion So Christ the Redeemer and my own Mary on the back of my arm. I didn't want to, um Gerald, who's in Sibu for true black trouble? Hey, did a pure Poseidon trip tribal Tet on my upper arm, which was always on my shoulder, which we just kind of represents My blood that I'm, you know, born a Filipino and full fledged. Um, And then I went off since being here in Manila and from your recommendation. And Abby, of course, um, I got a lion on my leg or my upper thigh to represent my Lear nous. Your clearness get yourself a cheeky leave its head as well,
spk_0: 20:12
and you get there. Snake done here is over.
spk_1: 20:14
Yeah, that was with Jell O and some booze, right? Yeah, right. So I mean, like, obviously you can see it, but the whole
spk_0: 20:21
eh? So what we're looking at right now for the people who obviously can't see is, you know, a full force leave the right arm on Chris.
spk_1: 20:27
Yeah. Um so from from the specifics of it's pretty much like all of this Lower four. I was most represent, like the Garden of Eden. You have the snake. Just kidding. Told fruit here, Obviously, Just the flowers from the garden or even Jesus.
spk_0: 20:47
And just going better. The whole corporate in Yemen facing the flak because of your ink. No, I really am not. Not in a place like New Zealand, where it's part of the culture to have tattoos.
spk_1: 20:58
Yeah. Yeah, and I think I think a lot of them are, like, generally quite interested to know a little bit more about it. Um, you know, I found that a lot of the people that have asked about it, we're also those leaders of mine who are off faith as well. And so they were quite interested to like, Oh, that's that. You know, you've got that You you know, you do you believe in all that other stuff? So it was quite easy conversation or those, even if they weren't would want to know the story about certain things because it doesn't actually have a meaning. And I'm like, it does. Can I ask the meaning behind it? Nor that just
spk_0: 21:29
like it's not just some random, like set of words on your arm.
spk_1: 21:31
Yeah. Yeah. Although it might look like it.
spk_0: 21:33
It's not just Latin For the sake of Latin.
spk_1: 21:35
Yeah. Yeah. So, um no, I don't I personally haven't, um, received any flak for even sexy super interested in below, Like your style of how you lay your tattoos as they really cool. And I appreciate that so shallow stood in
spk_0: 21:51
it must be also such an honor toe be wearing somebody's art as well. 100% just being there. Canvas in being a method of there, um, communication to get their work out into the world as well. Because obviously that's a walking billboard. Almost. Yeah,
spk_1: 22:05
yeah, 100. It's that that is exactly it. It's being able to go. Well, I went to that person and he can do this. And so every time anyone asks, I've actually had a few people since being in the Philippines can just be like I really like attack who did them and kind of just showed in tow instagram of the the people that looked after me and, um hopefully they get more clients because they were epic. The guys here are so good, man. They're so good. They they already food while you're getting attacked. Like who does? That
spk_0: 22:35
s so funny is all coming like us being in a very conservative country. Where, I don't know is that found the point here. Not so much. Maybe just a little bit, too. Tests? Ah, yeah, it's it's do you get like, shady looks whenever you're walking about? Not
spk_1: 22:52
as much. It's definitely car
spk_0: 22:54
or it's because that place is that we're hanging out like people that have
spk_1: 22:58
year. I think I do see what you're saying. I'm saying that because that's the conversation that I did have with both of the, um sorry. All three of the artists that I've seen here in the fields. Like how? How? How a tech tattoos sort of perceived now? Because, of course, again coming back to that Asian painting of the Philippine appearance in light, they don't want you to have tats kind of period. So it's like for me to have all of us. Now it's that it's obviously shown the changing and it before it was like, don't have tattoos on your body because it it will symbolize that, Your honor, like a criminal criminal, right? Yeah. Um, but now it's sort of like I think it's it's okay because a lot of people are using it to express themselves or or kind of what the tattoos mean to do a guess. And maybe they're changing their outlook on it. No,
spk_0: 23:50
it was actually really funny. I remember when you first came to the crew after getting ink and my mom was like, What did you do to yourself? I can only imagine what your mom said,
spk_1: 23:58
man, your mom or your parents at my second transfer. So they reacted exactly how my parents that I think the first thing that came out of my dad's mouth was asking if it was like, You know, you know, there's like, stick old
spk_0: 24:10
money, Don't you get in like magazines. You put water in that?
spk_1: 24:14
Yeah, that was like, You know, write that off later on tonight. I'm like, No, that's that's That's only if you're good. I dropped
spk_0: 24:21
a bit of bread on this man, Robert. I'm not just rubbing it
spk_1: 24:23
out like that. So But luckily, they were like small tattoos at the time. He came around the side of mom and after sort of telling him the story behind them, and they're all right. Cool. I mean, yeah, come this Philippines jump. I told him I'm going to get blasted in the lie. I up. So they're they're really started coming. I've seen the more than I see. It's all good.
spk_0: 24:45
You said that once a bit of music. But
spk_1: 24:47
I do. I do. I, um I have come grown up in a very school. Very background, very musical family as well. You know that Mom's things, uh, brother plays the guitar. Um, his wife plays the piano. Um, sisters are the the other. They're probably thing is as well, um, in high school was just always part of like doing doing anything on the get with, you know, all of the all of the boys who wanna lunchtime just grab it. Gets hard, something like that. So, yeah, not definitely grow very musical. One last shadow for tonight is, um, if any of you got any of the listeners out there have heard flip gang shout out to the boys Shut eyes. Um, I've wrapped with them. Um, no light. No longer, I guess, formally rapping at the moment, But definitely be interested in getting back on the mic sometime in the future. But yet so Yeah. No, definitely. Devil in the music side of things. Well, love it.
spk_0: 25:54
Yeah. I'm hoping to get Jeremy and Harry onto the show one time. We're actually trying to organize something, but, you know, everyone's being busy. 100%. That's actually a concert. Saluted you goes.
spk_1: 26:04
Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, enough talk definitely talked to them about sort of trying to jump on his one. Um and that that'd be like super king. Sir. I'm sure you guys will link that up sometimes.
spk_0: 26:16
Freeman. Yes. So the reason why I wasn't able to come to City was obviously cause I lend her job. And, you know, I just couldn't tell you all you read another story, but, you know, when? Because obviously moved here for for a certain goal yet. And I wasn't expecting toe have employment. No more than four weeks of getting into the country anyway. Yeah, but, you know, it came about because off that frame of mind, you know, me being open toe opportunities, weaving open for self development 100 leaving open for learning. Um, so I managed to land a job, land a job at a gym, You know, just make sure the place is on burning down, making sure that the doors are open and locked at night or whatever. Um, it just really goes to show a man that a lot off a lot off what happens in your life can manifest itself depending on what your mind set of 100%. Because if you're always out there, you know, playing the blame game like a man. I'm having a real bad day because off x y z x y z I remember seeing this quote on Instagram boy like lip bad. Five seconds of your day. Ruin, You know, the rest of the 24 hours?
spk_1: 27:29
Yeah, yeah, No, I think I've seen that as well,
spk_0: 27:32
and it's it's so easy to let that happen. It's It's I think it's much easier to let a bed five seconds of faked a 50 for the rest of the day for you to carry on like a good five seconds and just wipe off that energy and, you know, share it around with other people.
spk_1: 27:45
Yeah, yeah, I actually really do agree with that cause. And that really does come to kind of again. Like that mindset I was talking about before us is, If you can get on top of that earlier. That's what gives you this. Those a couple of steps ahead of the dark. The crowd right is because if you can learn to not sweat the small stuff like, yeah, it's gonna suck And don't get me wrong, it's because it is going to give you. You know, bad moments will affect you like that. But if you can kind of learn to just take a deep breath and go call, that's happened. I can't do anything about Anakin. It's in the past, but what I can do is do X y Z to avoid it for next time. Let me enjoy the rest of my day. If you can do that and a snap and learn to kind of create that habit, that's already those that next step ahead of the crowd. So it really does come to that mindset of kind of doing there. And I think for you as well, from obviously personal checks that we have like that's what's giving you the opportunity of what's just falling in your hands and really working out despite as you sit still waiting for your gold toe kind of coming to fruition
spk_0: 28:48
Because it'll be one thing for me to just sit here and do nothing while I'm waiting. That's easy. You know, that's easy. And the easy Chandra. Yeah, but putting your neck out there because I got exactly what I asked for if the listeners record back to one of the first episode, you know, part of the reason why moving was to get out of their comfort zone and to grow. And like I said, I'm getting exactly. I ask because I've landed a job in an industry where, you know, I've had very little experience and in a row that I knew nothing about yet in a foreign country. So, you know, that's like the unholy trinity off off comfort, bro. Yeah, but being here, man, it's actually been so amazing because I've mentioned me a lot of people. Oh, yeah. And I mean Theo to some of them as well.
spk_1: 29:34
And they're cool. Cat,
spk_0: 29:35
cool cat and really cool dudes. Real cool, real cool people. Um, right here, man. Honestly, when you just open toe positive things, it'll just fall. And everything would sort of look after itself.
spk_1: 29:51
Yeah. Yeah, it's It's just being being willing to accept the change as well. Right? Um, hanging and kind of going with the flow and leading it living things just kind of happened And being a, I guess malleable toe.
spk_0: 30:05
Not to the point where you're looking at everything like all YOLO. You know, I'm just gonna let it look after it. I really tried to say they will look after itself, but not to the point where you know you I
spk_1: 30:16
don't have a backup plan.
spk_0: 30:18
Yeah, You at the whim off where the current is going? Yes, Off course, signor. You still need a paddle, the boat or whatever points in the direction that you want to go.
spk_1: 30:27
Yeah, but you don't plan to perfection long. At the same time,
spk_0: 30:31
I was
spk_1: 30:31
like, That's when I feel like when you do that, I mean a decent my president perspective. That's when things do fall out of place. He was like, you get caught up in the minor details like artist didn't go that way. Well, this didn't go that way. So you get caught up on that
spk_0: 30:44
because you gotta make very calculated risks as well. Understand, biscuit for the biscuit. Which is exactly what you did, man. You know, for me, you know, because I did go through the union up. Yeah, and looking at because I've got a lot of mates you didn't and in my eyes, like it was differently tomorrow, isn't it? Would you consider it not going to get a degree A calculated risk? Because obviously, it's I think it's paid off for you.
spk_1: 31:12
Yeah, um, it was it was definitely, definitely. Say it was a calculated risk. Um, to sort of say that I'm not going to continue. It was again really quickly. It was one of those conversations, and I did have what the parents to say. I'm not, but it is in the morning and a time they weren't super happy about it. Um, so, yeah, there was a lot of weight on my shoulder kind of heaviness that I was feeling when I did it. But I think now that I can say to my parents that I can hold my own and, you know, kind of show them what you know, like, I'm making per se And, um, how how far I've climbed up there. They're happy with the risk that I made, so it definitely was for me, it was a calculated risk that I wouldn't continue. Um, happy. I made a choice.
spk_0: 31:57
And I think once you've made a choice, you know, you just gotta own it
spk_1: 32:01
100 things. That's a the ownership and then going cool. I'm a hustle it at this now because that was my choice. That was This is what I tried to do. So I don't want to like I'm a huge on like, Oh, I mean, sometimes I I guess I'll say I'll say it As I was getting Thio said I'm huge. I'm not trying to, like, double down on my stuff. So, like, if I say that, I'm gonna do it, I want it. I want to push that. And instead of going, are you all? So I'll do this and then you kind of give yourself, like, 20% that men actually can't do that. So then you go back on it. When I said that I wasn't gonna hit down that road was like, sweet hustle and I'll keep going. Keep going. Don't get me around there. Like, if I get to this position where, um, the next role that I need requires a certain amount of a certain papers. I mean, I'm happy to do that paper because I'll be like it, you know, it's for the nex progression in short. But right now, from what you know where I met, I ever needed anything since. And I'm still climbing. So see where it takes me
spk_0: 33:03
being accountable for the decisions that you make. You know that such a mature thing to do as well, Because, you know, if it if you are sort of saying that I'm pursuing the degree, you know, for my parents and you don't like it, it's easy to like, Just blame it on them.
spk_1: 33:22
That's Ah, yeah, that's it. And I think that was and I feel like a lot of lessons will relate to that. I feel like that's the pressure that I was also going to have is that if I studied at the time, it was almost like I was just studying just for the paper just to make him happy. But then what if I never really used or anything like that and then, like, look or upload? All right, all right. Like I I was studying towards fashion, but then end up using it at this moment anyways. And that would have Bean could have Could of them would have been something on my mind that are only really study Just because, you know, you wanted me to study. So I think it's also something that was on my mind, and I was kind of all right, Well, let me just make my choice and and do it my way. And if I failed in that on me,
spk_0: 34:08
it's really tough because you obviously need to take and to account the the happiness and satisfaction of the people that important in your life. But at the same time, you know, off that of yourself as well. And sometimes that's almost it's not more important. Oh, we put in the same category of things, right? But, you know, you still have to look up. Look out for yourself. Yeah, it's that balancing act year or, um, because I just hate it. Man is living living life in blaming my misery on other people. Yeah, not not even owning that. Like I'm miserable because of the decisions that I've made.
spk_1: 34:47
Yeah. Yeah. And I think for me as well like it, that's I'm much better off to say that this was my choice that I made and I failed. And it starts on me a supposed to, You know, that choice was on you and then I'm feeling bad about it. And then, like, now I'm kind of like it's not really like the word resent is quite a heavy word. But you know, that sort of that feeling, like it's like that choice was on you. And now I'm feeling some type of way. So at least I know that if I make all these choices and it's a lot me and it falls on me, the only person I can blame, it's myself. I'm I'm all right with that. I'm right with. I can put my head on the pillow at the end of the night and be like, Sweet, I'll be better the next day or whatever
spk_0: 35:31
menu is waking up in, I don't know. It's just I think a lot of the younger people who ah, considering like auto ago union don't go to work again. Just realizing that at the end of the day, the decision is yours to like and yours to own, you know, whatever you make of it. You know, you whatever. Whatever work you put into it, you know you'll get the same output. Yeah. You know, you don't know what you saw your kind of thing.
spk_1: 36:01
100%. It's It's actually that over. If you if you make that choice, you gotta own it. And you gotta You gotta give it everything from there, because once once you make that choice, that's that's a that's that's something you gotta you gotta take on. Um because as you said, the you'll only get out what you put it. So if you're only gonna if you're gonna put in, like, 20% and you're gonna No, no chill a home for the rest of the day and just kind of play fortnight. Oh, I don't know what ever thought even that, as you're ever going to get much out of it all you aspiring to be a like number one former
spk_0: 36:38
and like Eric. And that's also so cool that if you are aspiring to be a number one fortnight stream a lot of things, you can do it. Like, who would have thought that 10 years ago, people making millions of dollars out of playing games. Yeah, that's what has us there, because I I grew up with only a Nintendo 64 so that that was a very long time. But I don't have a PlayStation or next walks or anything like that. So the n 64 was only gaming platform that I sort of jammed with. Can you just imagine making a career out of that?
spk_1: 37:15
No, no, no. But yeah, it's It's the way that the world of old as well, right?
spk_0: 37:21
Like I hear stories off people who are just living the best life streaming games bar. And because I I I watched a few room escape streamers of Arya because I used to play a real escape. Yeah, whenever they're talking about, um, whenever they're talking about the game just hearing the passion in their voices. But yeah, it's it's very, very encouraging, Thio to know that, you know, if you if you just put your head down and do something that you love, yet it will definitely your we'll pay you both.
spk_1: 38:00
Yeah, that their revenue is open and all that. So if you want to hit down it in your own good,
spk_0: 38:06
especially cause the gaming community. I think you know the old Children. Passionate boat. I'm not a part of it, but, like, I've got a I've got a ton of mates. You are? Yeah, and I always feel quiet, um, Alien alienated with the boys. And never They're talking about Les card or Fortnight for you. It's just buzzing, man. The the opportunities that are out there now.
spk_1: 38:30
Yeah, it's It's different as you coming back to what we were talking about earlier on this conversation about how no social media has really changed everything. That's that's another portion. That's where it's sort of you. It's giving you this opportunity to to stream or to do things online and reach out to other viewers and all that, and just play games and kind of go from there again. I'm not part of that community either, so I feel the same way that you do. But, yeah, it's crazy to see the amount of things are jobs that have opened up a swell from
spk_0: 39:00
an interesting thing about you bottom if you want to talk about but the whole social media thing that you said like you're not very active. Ah yeah, What's that like man, cause whenever I'm not, I do get periods of time where I feel like I'm damn, I needed I needed deactivated lines the ground for Because I just need a keep away. But whenever I do, I always also farm. Oh, yeah? Do you not get that? Because you've been offered for a couple years
spk_1: 39:28
now? Yeah, Yeah, It's, um it's interesting, but a lot of people do ask me about it. Um and so, yeah. I mean, I haven't instagram I'm a ghost. So if anyone does find me on the you'll notice that I have, like,
spk_0: 39:41
zero apart. 24 was kind of thing
spk_1: 39:43
a, um And so and it's mainly therefore like to just stay in touch with, like, my inner circle right now, my close friends a little bit of ah, um and, you know, encasing the other connections, come back and generally instagrams a place where, you know, people connected all that jazz. Um, Facebook. I definitely don't have. There's too much stuff on Facebook for me to Just like No, I'm not I'm not What? That is just too much. The boys. Yeah, well, too much clutter. Yeah, 100 within. Um, but not being off social is being good, man. It makes me really just focus more on what I think is a little bit more important to me and not getting like my head too. Caught up in my phone all the time. Um and so, you know, trying to just just get out Or like, do you know the actual activity or whatever? Um, instead of just being a because, I mean, a lot of people listen and assure yourself can patch for just being able to fall into that trap of just being on your phone for so long and being, like, with, at the time going over your don't was just crawling right.
spk_0: 40:47
I'm so guilty of that. Because sometimes, you know, I just wanted to just chill, watch a movie. You saw a crime cost into the TV yet, but I'd have my laptop, like, in my left, and I'd be scrolling through, You know, some other thing checking emails, whatever. Yeah, at the same time I got my laptop on my left, I got the movie playing on TV. I've got my phone in my hand, but, you know, so that's three different things that I'm gonna divide my attention to Yeah, that's and I'm not absorbing any of it. I'm like, Oh, what part of movie about two? Yeah. I answer the email. Yeah, Yeah. No 10 Oh, no one's damning me, man. Sad boy.
spk_1: 41:36
Always like I said. Well, um, yeah. No. So that that's, um yeah, finding. Finding You did say that. Yeah, it's It's definitely something of hopped off. I was met until it before on my postal minister, like crazy and and
spk_0: 41:52
had quite a following this Auburn.
spk_1: 41:53
Yeah. Yeah, you know, I got amongst I sort of, I guess five figures. Yeah, it was just kind of getting amongst the this the low key sort of influence of headway you get, get certain brands. That might say What can you ripped us? What can you do that? Um, and obviously just kind of just getting certain things reposted on all that jazz. So I I got amongst the, um it's it's sort of after what? Just what wasn't something that I wanted at the time, So it kind of just deactivated everything, and I just felt being a former bro for honestly today. So we'll see if I ever come back. But for now, I'm enjoying being offered as long as I've still got a kept in touch with, obviously the clothes people that I care about, all that jazz. That's all that matters to me
spk_0: 42:43
because finds nowadays they can bring up the statistics on how much time you're spending on a particular. Yeah, it's crazy. And I saw for us on my weekly usage on Instagram. So for across seven days, eight hours off, my week was on instagram. That's that's a whole workday for reasons one work day off, Just schooling
spk_1: 43:06
in just 95 just beyond
spk_0: 43:09
nothing like I don't remember. Like my favorite photo that I saw. I don't know if he was talking to
spk_1: 43:15
benefit right. There's no gain from it,
spk_0: 43:18
like just the I g benefit the instant gratification benefit, you know, a quick and dolphin hit that you know, I gotta like this is or, you know, it's funny, cause sometimes you post something I don't. You you know you don't have it. But, you know, I'd put something yet and I'd wait for that one person, so I like it. If they like it, then I've succeeded. But they if they haven't liked the post within six hours. Then you know,
spk_1: 43:45
it's a funny They'd replace that another time. Oh,
spk_0: 43:50
man. It's gotten to that point where we're even today. I feel that way. Yeah, someone so hasn't liked my picture. Yeah, yeah,
spk_1: 43:59
yeah, I I just wanted I want that person to see us. I don't
spk_0: 44:04
care if the whole world likes If just one person didn't. And it's funny, that kind of kind of effect that it has. Yeah, on you.
spk_1: 44:14
That's a And, you know one thing. I can't quickly come back to the whole, Like, I guess maybe one day I'll come back when, um when inside ended that whole move from, like, taking away the people who liked end also like that. Nobody likes that you have. I thought that was kind of a cool move. I was all right. Like, you know, maybe that that might be Maur instinctive to kind of, I guess post a little something something cause I feel like a cz Well is, you know, we've been people like post something. It's not some. So I've been depending on the individual. But it's something for the likes, as opposed to like their personal because they
spk_0: 44:53
want They want to share their
spk_1: 44:55
ana. She advanced specific moment. They're doing the whole tuning and editing on that time stuff to make a cool. This is what I wanted. I want ex mental likes on it.
spk_0: 45:04
I think that was the whole reason behind them. Taking away the number. Yeah. Is that just sharing for the love of sharing it?
spk_1: 45:10
Yeah, and so I like that I like that move. Okay, well, that's something I could imagine myself coming back, too. But then I think they bought it back. I
spk_0: 45:18
don't know. I don't know if they voted back off. My account was just Gretchen, cause I can still see the amount of likes on everything that a school across.
spk_1: 45:26
Well, that's what I was. That's what it was about to bring up is like I had a bit of a cheeky gander. My G before I just saw, like, the amount of lights on
spk_0: 45:34
all So you can still see it is all
spk_1: 45:35
right. And I was like, Oh, that's strange
spk_0: 45:38
because it went away for about two days when they first implemented it. Yeah, because I've got a couple of Graham accounts like I got my one about the work one. And whatever the work, when I can't see it model explore my personal one like I can't. Uh, so for me, when I'm posting, that is what likes date her saying, LF LF LF l Yeah, for like, for, like, Hari td on you turds.
spk_1: 46:11
Yeah. So now, um, but I mean again that I mean every runs and taught there into, um if I read I mean, if I really want to, I hit the Twitter for, like, a bit of a rant, But even that I'm not even, like, actively on it's just like I just haven't opened the background. Same sort of thing. It's a bit of a ghost. Only a couple 100 followers. Um, and if I want a bit of Iran till now, I'll use it. But otherwise, you don't really see any price too much on it.
spk_0: 46:40
Speaking of Twitter, this is very interesting. You have quite a big name following you things this far. The bracket C. And that's an ultimate flex. You know, that's something they came pulling your CV, though
spk_1: 46:54
I am
spk_0: 46:55
brother Rock following me on Twitter.
spk_1: 46:57
Yeah. I don't know. how that came about. But, um, yeah, I just I just remember one time just seeing his name pop up. Just saying sort of rocket bomb. Awfully. Juno. What, like what is this? Sorry. Who? Rahu. Yeah, and it'll be Billy random if I didn't follow him back. Of course I fall that. But yeah, he's He's definitely one of them. Um, who was the other one? That I think I'm pretty sure I told you about
spk_0: 47:25
Britney Spears on. Yes, it does she follow you?
spk_1: 47:28
Britney Spears? Strange, eh? Um, in life, let me just let me just pull up my stuff
spk_0: 47:37
from quick. Oh, you know what else is funny? But you know how Instagram has the whole, like, close friends Think Yes. Three green.
spk_1: 47:45
Yeah. Yeah. Great. Yeah. So go. Whatever.
spk_0: 47:48
Sometimes, you know, you're like, Oh, come on. This was the list. Why's that? Why am I in your close, friend? Sorry. Uh, you should, um you should You should place up a story saying just a normal story. Yeah. If you see this means you're not home across ruins lives.
spk_1: 48:08
Let's see how many people buzz out.
spk_0: 48:10
Dude, you're sad for her. I should do that right now. Yeah, suitability. I'm not that rude, rude
spk_1: 48:19
proceeding with this. I followed 45 people and any 109 followers. So it's me being a ghost. And over that 100 9 followers, your bracket Britney in there, I'll take that. It
spk_0: 48:32
wasn't this someone else that was, like 1/3 personal, wasn't it? Maybe I just need to like girls cake until beom Kim Kardashian's also following you something. Scroll through
spk_1: 48:42
for the verified on Tick Tooks s. So that's how I know that I'm It's an important person
spk_0: 48:49
seeing that. That's also quite interesting, cause,
spk_1: 48:52
like getting verified
spk_0: 48:53
the amount of power that took head. Yeah, you know, you trust listening or not listening about reading a tweet from my account like that, as opposed to, you know, just a random s Yeah, Twitter account.
spk_1: 49:06
And that obviously is Wells. That foreign influence of that tick will set you apart for your like, you know, your endorsements and all that type of stuff as well. So it's crazy. I
spk_0: 49:16
think that influence that these influences have it could, I don't know, but there's so much power that social media has, and it's kind of scary the amount of off say that some people have.
spk_1: 49:31
Yeah, bro. Yeah, that's that's crazy. And again, it's just it's a matter of being able to just sort of yet simple post right? But that's also where things go can go sour, because some people don't necessarily think of what they say.
spk_0: 49:45
And it could take one tweet or one person ruin your whole career. You're never being hired ever again.
spk_1: 49:51
Yeah, so you know it's crazy. The power that social media has again. One tweak and get you blasted for good, but actually get you blasted for the bed. Make or break and you don't know which one it could be. Just depends on who's looking at it, lacking it, this liking it and their opinion of it as well. If they reposed argument,
spk_0: 50:14
Percy, don't think I could live my life like that, walking on eggshells, having to worry about every little thing that I say because you know, beyond scrutiny, like Autumn a fool for everything, for whatever reason, war.
spk_1: 50:28
Hence the activation where I mean, it's not like I really got that level that I can't say I have,
spk_0: 50:34
so it's it's definitely helped you with, like your focus for American.
spk_1: 50:37
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I reckon if if I was, if I was caught up in all that social media buzz and all that type of stuff, I don't think I would have Pena's probably probably as hungry as I was kind of hustle hard and kind of. I guess it is. Some people say, accelerating my career, Um so it's definitely made me focus on what's more of a priority to me and what's more surprising in my life for short, that's that's that's kind of that begin calculated risk that I buy. So for me, Um, however, in saying that it is very also very also whoa of only being here one month in the Philippines. It's mostly my boys. He was about to say that, Really, it is also very important to like, not lose yourself in the hospitals. I did that like I just in 2.5 years and ended straightened that pretty much no holiday, um, and kind of being here for a month. And this is kind of that well needed break that I need, um that was required for me to kind of just go cool. I can you re start the car or whatever and get back into it because I think I definitely lost myself in the hustle for a little bit. So
spk_0: 51:51
in terms of your own, like passion project, bro, what have you got on the horizons for yourself, man? Because obviously, you know, you've got this one pretty solidly under the bag. The whole corporate game. Yeah, Yeah, creatively, bro. Or you know, like what? What's what's your gig, man?
spk_1: 52:07
That's it, brother. So, um, I guess what What? What from for me right now is I still am heavily involved in really interested in the fashion element of everything s O. I guess being get business manager again. Kind of hustlers mentality is I'm wanted to learn about New Zealand businesses. What works? Well, what doesn't speak into my clients and understanding, You know, all the tips and tricks because they're obviously willing to share with me. Um, I mean, going call, how can I implement that into a business of my own? Um, which will hopefully be in you. I see. Which will be my clothing brand. Um, so, yeah, I want to get back into the fashion element. I still remember a lot of, like everything that I learned from the first year. Anyway, so it'll be good to just get amongst that. Stop that, um, and really just get my creative juices flowing on that, um, Same sense, I guess. Kind of stepping back, as you see. You know, as I dabbled in the music and stuff like that, I've had a bit of a chat to the boys, Harry and Jeremy. Or is there like, I guess their stage names, germs and Casey Philly, um, talking to them about getting back on the mic as well. So, you know, I think I'll kind of also just take stages. As in you I see again and just kind of, um, get back on to spit in some bars on getting it back into the music and stuff like that as well, Just tow again. But either side hustle. Just not losing yourself too much. And that one hustle where you kind of forget, you know, just to enjoy life a little bit or focus on other little projects as well as kind of I'm just gonna build that empire, if you will.
spk_0: 53:47
For your fashion. Gaber Obviously, you have received, like, formal education for that music. But I use self taught. Like what? Did you take any listens to go to music school music classes or anything like that?
spk_1: 53:58
Nan? Not it all. To be honest day. You
spk_0: 54:01
read music. No, I can't. I can't. From musically inclined dude like because you're pretty talented are nothing. Concrete music.
spk_1: 54:09
Yeah. No, I can't, um, I have. I think I picked up the guitar like 10. And anyway, I was able to teach myself was just stick some hit funds in
spk_0: 54:19
ultimate guitar. No combo.
spk_1: 54:20
Yeah, sex on his friends. And and, um, I guess kind of just go. Let's learn the song by here. Um, and that's definitely being a great value for me. Um, in terms of just being able to go pick up whatever instrument and then teach myself that from there with moved on to, like, you know, just like other, um, string variations, like, you know, the uke or anything like that. Um, tell me something. Piano, the germs, all that type of stuff. So that was a really good element, But no, I can't I can't read. I can't read music.
spk_0: 54:56
So Do you know anything about technical terms and order for the formal? I mean, like, try it.
spk_1: 55:03
Yeah, yeah, a little bit. But that's purely just being on the on the the base of kind of like general knowledge. Yeah, yourself again, that that self taught types, That's what I'm going to go on Google and going like, What is this? And what is that? Nothing. Where I've kind of just gone and set in the class and looked out. Um, I have I'm consistently, um, off the back of better. I'm consistently encouraging my nephew, who's like, really enjoying music as well to actually learn it. I'm to read as well. I think that as an edit element for him will be good cause here he comes. He's picking Stuff up by Here is Well, I can really see it, Um, but it's a reader I think would have been the one person he would have made. A nice
spk_0: 55:49
Would you ever consider getting formally? It's what I know to improve your skill
spk_1: 55:54
City. Why, No, No, um I mean, it's it's kind of like something, I think, depending on where I want to go with it. For example, like small checks would like your like again, sort of the boys from Philip Gang where we'll be like talking about sort of producing certain beats like if there's any any value that I can add to that were if I went to a class for it was something like that and it would help the the wake of we could produce a track monster tracker whatever Did not for sure Put my hand up forever. Be like cool. Let me do that cause, you know, let me add some add some value to Doesn't you put something on the table for you guys as well?
spk_0: 56:30
Because you've already got that base level of talent. Just imagine how much more that would improve your, you know, take a class with because back in high school, boys to run track, right? Yeah, And my events were long jump in triple job, yet I never I was never part of an ethics clo I never had a coach or anything. Yeah, my culture is YouTube and this was back in, like the days of two dozen eight, where it was not yet broadband way strait dialogue, and you can only watch know a gig of Internet today or whatever,
spk_1: 57:04
and knowing he'd go on the phone while you and I
spk_0: 57:06
know exactly what I'm getting at is that it was just a casual Whoa. Well, that's my problem. Okay. Google. Yeah. Um, So what I was saying was, um I told myself you had a long jump. That's all myself. Out of trouble, John. Yeah, and I still managed to sit the high school records for both of those events in the junior age group. Yeah. Yeah, the trouble, John. One's been broken. But the longer ones, though always. No. No. Sorry. The long jump ones being broken. Triple John Records. Still standing. Sit like he doesn't eight from. That's something that I think about A lot actually is. Yeah, I I was right. How much better could have been if I had taken it seriously late. My boy, Josh, who was on the podcast quite early on. Um, and he's doing very well. You know, we we ran the four by 100 together, and he's obviously at one point in time. Had the quickest 100 meter the rig blocked cook us 100 meter time for men in New Zealand. Yeah, I'm just thinking. Damn! And like Sayang grow If I had, like, pursued it a bit more, taken it almost seriously. Pokey points, huh? I need all the points I can get, dog. But Evers just really makes you wanna cause there are some naturally talented people out there whether it be for fashion sport, music that they don't formally pursue because it's always just a side thing for them yet. Imagine if that was, like, the main thing.
spk_1: 58:44
Yeah, I know for sure
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how much more positive with the world be when they're putting that their passions into into this and they just sharing it with people. But don't you just love hearing it when you know someone's passion What they do?
spk_1: 58:54
Yeah, 100 cent And like And you you will hear in what they talk about how they talk about it, you hear in the voice and everything. So, um, it's the way it comes across. And I guess to your point before I lose it, I lose leaves my mind on my goodness. At least my mind is that I'm But that's it is that you can be like I just naturally talented at something. But it's there, like hunger for more knowledge as well. So it's like where that classes is really gonna help whatever didn't take it because it isn't going to benefit us. They're going to give you that much more, you know, leverage above the rest of the crowd or whatever, because all about standing out or being being above all of ahead of the rest of for whatever it might be that you're going to pursue for the hostage mentality, right? So that's
spk_0: 59:41
crazy. I also think that there's a lot of humility involved when you acknowledge that. Yeah, I need to improve my knowledge, sit and get better. Yeah, because that's a hard thing to admit that, you know, my knowledge is actually lacking, and I need to fill the gaps for a lot of people. That's that's a very hard thing to come to terms with it. And I'm good like I'm good one that
spk_1: 1:0:04
I really know, You know? I know everything. Yeah, yeah,
spk_0: 1:0:07
you know, it's tough road, That's it. It's you, especially if you're naturally good at it as well. You know, I I got this far on my own. I don't need anyone else but you do need. You do need other people were Yeah, humans are social creatures brought
spk_1: 1:0:21
Exactly. And again. It's just It's You can't just be I don't know. You could just be content with just whatever. You know right now, you gotta gotta be hungry. You get Is those more to learn? You know, it is always there is more room to improve. So if you can continue kind of being hungry for that knowledge being hung because knowledge is power.
spk_0: 1:0:41
This podcast, it was literally a Google how to start a podcast. Yeah, And I remember
spk_1: 1:0:46
you talking to me about it, you know, like operator, like, you know, this is like an idea that I'm playing
spk_0: 1:0:50
with legit, like, literally. It was on the flight home, home on the flight to cry stretch for your birthday last year. And I was thinking we bring out flip gang in, but I'm you know, I do created it to them. The inspiration for starting in the first place close. I'm not flying down and you're gonna bump into them for for your party. Yeah, and I really wanted to know what The creative process Waas. You know how they get into the frame of mind off writing music? Yeah, producing beats writing lyrics and stuff like that. But I'm you know, I taught myself how to play cards slow, buddy. What equipment to use and stuff like that. So that was also pretty cool, bro. You know, expanding. Expanding your knowledge cause you know, if not, then we wouldn't be able to share this conversation. Thio. The three people that listen to my show
spk_1: 1:1:42
Yeah, the shadows of the real ones. Three people. Bye now. But you know that that's that's 100 CNN. And I remember I remember when when it was like my birthday and we're talking about, you know, or even sorry just after that, we get dropped the first episode and Real told talking about, like having this just kind of conversation.
spk_0: 1:2:03
Bung. Is that what it is that way?
spk_1: 1:2:06
Just like you know what it
spk_0: 1:2:07
is that the lunch lunch room at work, right? Yeah, Well, having like KFC. Oh, sorry.
spk_1: 1:2:12
Yeah. Yeah, it was Yeah, it was a KFC. We were kind of just like men. We were just, you know, I'll become to the Philippines and you're going to be there about of line we just sit down and have a conversation and zero girls, and this literally This is the product of it. We're just here in the Philippines on my last night and just gonna have a conversation.
spk_0: 1:2:29
Like, just think back to the amounts off quality conversations that you've had in your lifetime. Yeah? And what? Ah, not really. Not really a shame. But, you know, how nice would it have been to have a few of them that recorded, You know, they're really organic ones. Just like hot out like, um, it's the ones that come about like you, actually, Bo. Yeah. There's random ones that you're not expecting to happen. Yeah, this was obviously we There was an element of planning to a certain extent. To an extent. Yeah, it was a matter off. Hey, buddy, don't record something. Yeah, but when it just comes up in your deep in conversation, there's DDM seasons. Deep ones were embassies for like that. All of a sudden, it's all the dams, like, three o'clock in the morning. Yeah,
spk_1: 1:3:17
Yeah. Oh, man, it's their equipment. Will you go with this conversation, go with time,
spk_0: 1:3:21
and then you like, circle back and we just repeat the same shit. Yeah, but using different words. Oh, man. Barnaba like, honestly, it's seeing a familiar face in an unfamiliar land, but it's very good Broad Teoh. See you again. Honestly, that given Charlene you and your family because, you know, we also you guys when you first landed, right?
spk_1: 1:3:48
Yeah. Yeah, that's like, Yeah, straight off, right off the plane. You're like, Yo,
spk_0: 1:3:53
so this is what happened. When when Chris landed in the Philippines, I was at work, and he calls you on Instagram. And he's like, Dude, I'm in. I'm in Manila for the next What? Mine? Ours?
spk_1: 1:4:02
Yeah, it was just overnight layover,
spk_0: 1:4:04
so I dropped everything I was doing where you were gonna come see you right now because I knew you would be in Manila like towards the end of the month. I was like, I'm not gonna wait that long if I can see, you know, let's let's make it happen.
spk_1: 1:4:17
Yeah, that's exactly what you didn't like. Yo, I'm about 40 minutes out. I'll be there. All right, Mr.
spk_0: 1:4:23
And it's quite frank. Was 40 minutes out in Manila deck will bring you what, five kilometers under three miles about 40 40 minutes in Auckland. That'll take you where to pee, huh?
spk_1: 1:4:35
Yeah, that that's taking it to a place where you can go for a hike. Straight up. Yeah. Anyone that's listening has ever been to Manila. Yeah, exactly. You're exactly we're talking about if you haven't been you clock going. Yeah, you could be going someplace that's like relatively, really, really cause. But you could be soon an hour in traffic and just be like punching yourself in the head. Wondering way didn't either walk it or something. But then
spk_0: 1:5:00
again, it's but too hot to just walk toe. We need to go lunch. That's true. The huge human see here bar, like it's done wonders for my skin. What you was
spk_1: 1:5:11
all, man. It's It's It's I think this is patches of it where I'm like. My stuff looks good. I'm blowing. But the same since, like I have counted the amount of breakouts of having of it 3 to 4
spk_0: 1:5:25
since you've been here since
spk_1: 1:5:26
I've been here. And that's what you mean a month. And they're being like so hick tick size while I'm 50 50 on what it's actually done for me,
spk_0: 1:5:34
for me What is definite improvement? Yeah, I can see it if I go back home. Our lady pizza face dog on. No, but three months before, I could only count maybe a handful of times. Where are my goddamn? That's a big ass pimple.
spk_1: 1:5:54
That's good. It's definitely worked for you then. Just like yeah, Like I said, I can count through the four, and that's in the span of a month. But
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then again, I don't know if it's to do with the actual fact that I'm here or just the positivity. Maybe I've been experiencing for the viewpoints as much as I miss my family because I opened up two other day. Yeah. No, I'm just understand. But at the same time, even though of what That going on? Just the fact that there's so much learning to be done here. Yeah, others. And I'm open toe.
spk_1: 1:6:26
Yeah, and you're riding. The waves will never like you. You gotta stay riding this wave because they're saying you've got some good things happen.
spk_0: 1:6:34
So I am riding the wave. Like I said before, I've still got to paddle in my hand, you know, sort of steering the steering, the car? Yeah, during the walker. Yeah, you know, Huh? Steering the walking down the white cat. Oh, gee, why couple? Sorry You got a white cat are
spk_1: 1:6:50
the Why can't it? Yeah, that's but that's good, man. Like on honestly, you've You've made some some big boy moves here and like, I'm proud of what you're doing right now.
spk_0: 1:6:59
And that's exactly the reason why I wanted to start those whole part classes to get damaged. Ajanta inspire people to inspire people to do the same thing because it's quite sad to hear when you asked him the question. You what do you really want to do with your life? And they're like, Dude, I actually don't know. Yeah, I think that's such a sad thing to hear. Yeah, Yeah, such says in accepting to say as well, but
spk_1: 1:7:25
and sometimes it can be a simple It's like, you know, just just picking something and and sticking at it just to keep yourself busy, like like on the real late when I was a kid. Obviously, you know, I mean, living here in private or whatever, and they're like, You know what you want to be when you grow up you know, it's like, you know, people say, I'll firefighter, please tell us about that. No one really says no one will be in finance, you read. But like it's right now, I've got a goal and I'm seeing my mind told, because it's something that's consistently keeping me pushing. This is keeping Mr Keeping me busy, and sometimes you gotta find the passion on that at the same scenes. While you're doing that, you continue making those like I see it like what we're saying really honors Hyde side hustles and all that stuff to keep, you know, keep your passion burning and all the other elements. I think for those people who don't necessarily know what to do, just just find something and keep at it until you know, day by day that goes by you, you will unlock something and you never know. It might just your passion might just be that houses mentality as well.
spk_0: 1:8:29
There will be hurdles along the way. We were absolutely sucks, and
spk_1: 1:8:34
that's that's big fax.
spk_0: 1:8:35
And the last thing that you want to be doing at that particular point in time is what you're doing right now.
spk_1: 1:8:40
Yeah, the whole sitting in beaches. Yeah, trying to sleep it off, Acting like you know, the baby is there's necessarily nothing you can do. There's something you can do
spk_0: 1:8:51
because it's it's such a beautiful thing. Thio, wake up in the morning and be excited for being assigned to do something. You know, compare that. Ah, you wake up in the first thing that comes in C one is gonna goto work. Yeah, that's the first emotion that you're waking up with is dread. Yeah, like again that whole five seconds thinking, bringing that with you through the whole day.
spk_1: 1:9:17
You've started your 1st 5 stages of the day with that house
spk_0: 1:9:21
and you ended as well, like all medical go back tomorrow. Yeah, not it's that's that's not that's not Dude, it's not. But I guess we're quite lucky now that we have tools toe be able to do to be able to chase down, you know, these things that we would love to do? Yeah, you know, that's it. And we're quite privileged to be ableto do that in the first place because they help people who don't have that chance. Yeah, victims all year for victims of circumstance with military can't change anything toe guard and do what they need to do or what they want to do. Yeah, she said, but I'm I am. And I guess to the people that are just starting to figure shit out, Lee stick to right?
spk_1: 1:10:07
Yeah. Stick toe. Um I mean, you set your mind to look, um, on that choice, make that choice and go at it. Like, as always, As long as you really, really want it, you'll find a way to hustle for. You'll find a way to push through it. Um, and as you said, I think a really good testament of that is just There will be days where you get bit enough, but just except it's gonna make you stronger
spk_0: 1:10:34
for it. No, actually, because then you don't away for sayings to get stronger as the almost die in battle. And in the next time they fight like we live up.
spk_1: 1:10:43
Yeah, live a lot. So you know, you will get stronger from it. It will make you a better person. Um, and then you just continue hustling until you You get that hat, that spot that you wanna be
spk_0: 1:10:53
hard up, man and the last thing I wanna do that's to go back to New Zealand, not having achieved what I came to do. Yeah, coming back tail between my legs. Like as much as I want to go back home, you know, just being more in bid. No worry about where my water's coming from is this is this temple Minerals up them? But, you know, Jack to make sacrifices border like nothing worth having ever came easy. Right?
spk_1: 1:11:23
But And the thing is, right now as well is that, you know, obviously the factor of age as well is that you know, we're quite young. So it's like, at least now that you know, when you when you do still in life or whatever have you You've got a story to tell to whoever to the kids. Tease him, T o. No one that wants to know is that and you're doing that right now as well. Is that this is what you're doing at this age? You listen to look 10 years down the line, you block, man. That's where I was that you look at me now. Type of thing,
spk_0: 1:11:53
Louis. I mean, no. Yeah. Big fax Yemen. I think taking a step back from from it all and having a look at the decisions that you have to make and really, really, really calculating it. Was it well, the risk benefit analysis? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, has to be worth 100 percenters. Also an element off YOLO. Yeah, because, you know, sometimes you just have to pull the trigger and and technically,
spk_1: 1:12:24
yeah, that's if you can you can calculate it to a certain extent. But thing is is there will always be a portion where you're like, OK, well, if it is a lot more risk per se bin reward that I can see right now. But if it works out, then the reward will you know, it will outweigh the risk at some point.
spk_0: 1:12:46
And if it doesn't work out, at least you've learned something as well.
spk_1: 1:12:48
100% If you do have, like a, for example, like if you're in a bit of a safe place where you kind of do have a backup point where might be family, for example then And you don't have much to lose than you little because that's the worst. It's gonna happen. You come back right back to your family. And
spk_0: 1:13:04
And that's not a bad thing to come back to you.
spk_1: 1:13:05
Yeah, exactly. Your family. So, man, you're good. You're good.
spk_0: 1:13:12
Speaking of family, borrower leg. Thanks so much for again. Taking the timeto Just chill out for
spk_1: 1:13:18
off any time, Any time. It was my pleasure for us. Get to just sit down. Have one of these conversations that we naturally have anyways
spk_0: 1:13:28
has been talking about doing this for a while now.
spk_1: 1:13:30
Yeah, Way got it on on on record. Um, and it was good. At least we got something to sort of say that, you know, this is what we did last time that we caught up in Manila. Sure do against it. And he
spk_0: 1:13:42
ever So, for bit of context for the listeners, the Stewarts flight back home is in about 12 hours. And there's no way we were gonna, um there's no way we're gonna be in the same country and not get something like this recorded right for sure.
spk_1: 1:13:56
Even if it wasn't as you said, even if we weren't able to get it jotted down with one an exact formulate a plan when we're always gonna be able to talk shit anyways. And
spk_0: 1:14:05
what we were saying earlier about an element of yellow being being in the decisions that you make. This is one of them, cause, you know, like all you lovely, Let's just do it. Yeah, store now.
spk_1: 1:14:13
See what happens, like, comes out. The other end
spk_0: 1:14:16
where the calculation has been made is that we know that we can record the conversation. Anyway, it was just a matter of win. So you win. Was the the YOLO Pot yet yet? But the what in the how and the why. That was the more calculated part of the decision making process. Because we already knew that this was gonna happen.
spk_1: 1:14:32
Yeah, irrespective if we were going to be in front of Mike
spk_0: 1:14:36
was gonna happen anyway, Right?
spk_1: 1:14:37
Conversations that we have is unreal. Like
spk_0: 1:14:40
real stupid shit that we talked about.
spk_1: 1:14:42
So it was bad tapping where I was gonna be in front of a couple of Mike's was good. It was good to good. To be able to have a bit of a a bit of a young lady may
spk_0: 1:14:52
spend, spend, spend some. Yeah, that's one thing that I really miss is Well, where is this laying back home thing,
spk_1: 1:15:00
man, I just talking to get one of the points that you introduced me to. I'm just trying to teach him some of it. Some of the banter that we have with some of the some of the words of using the Sunday here.
spk_0: 1:15:12
That's one. That one with a confused that. Yeah, it keeps keeps as but once again, my brother, it's been a pleasure having you on bar. And one day we'll get you back on and the odds will be the same with stories with different
spk_1: 1:15:30
levels will be different for both of us. I'm sure as well.
spk_0: 1:15:35
So, you know, stop this record because there's a couple of things that we want to talk about that we don't wanna broadcast. Yeah,
spk_1: 1:15:41
I gotta tell you something that I can't put up.
spk_0: 1:15:45
No, but off the record, that that's safe for Mother. Thanks so much, man. Anytime for cocky man. Fucking far too Thio just to I'll be all right