In this episode I sit down with Lyndon Cura, who makes his bread as a primary school teacher. Education is about lifelong learning, as well as the acquisition and transmission of knowledge. This often takes place in a formal setting such as a classroom. The process of education can also occur through any experience that has a formative effect on the way one thinks, acts and feels.
Lyndon says that the opportunity to teach has been a dream come true and a blessing in disguise as it has given him the chance to travel the world. His holidays coincide with that of his students so he’s left with a lot of time to be flying around. In saying that, he’s actually currently based at an International School in China, though he was lucky enough to leave before the outbreak of the coronavirus, which was very fortunate for the both of us.
He’s not currently allowed back into there due to the quarantine, but he’s still able to remotely teach his students via online learning. This is a far cry from the blackboards that we were used to whilst growing up.
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In this episode I sit down with Lyndon Cura, who makes his bread as a primary school teacher. Education is about lifelong learning, as well as the acquisition and transmission of knowledge. This often takes place in a formal setting such as a classroom. The process of education can also occur through any experience that has a formative effect on the way one thinks, acts and feels.
Lyndon says that the opportunity to teach has been a dream come true and a blessing in disguise as it has given him the chance to travel the world. His holidays coincide with that of his students so he’s left with a lot of time to be flying around. In saying that, he’s actually currently based at an International School in China, though he was lucky enough to leave before the outbreak of the coronavirus, which was very fortunate for the both of us.
He’s not currently allowed back into there due to the quarantine, but he’s still able to remotely teach his students via online learning. This is a far cry from the blackboards that we were used to whilst growing up.
To support Te Passion Project please consider subscribing to us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts or Youtube. You can find out more about the show on tepassionproject.com, where you can also support by purchasing a Te Passion t-shirt. We’ve got a whole bunch of colours available and each purchase helps keep the show afloat.
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In this episode, I sit down with Linden Kura, who makes his bread as a primary school teacher. Education is about lifelong learning as well as the acquisition and transmission of knowledge. This often takes place in a formal sitting, such as a classroom. The process of education can also occur through any experience that has a formats of effects on the way one thinks X and feels. London says that the opportunity to teach has been a dream come true in a blessing in disguise as it has given him the chance to travel. The world has holidays coincide with that of the students, so he's left with a lot of time to be flying around and saying that he's actually currently based at an international school in China. So he was lucky enough to leave before the outbreak off the Corona virus, which was very fortunate, for he's carrying all allowed back into the country due to the quarantine. But he's still able to remotely teachers students. Why online learning? This is a far cry from the blackboards that we were used to all screwing up to support a passion project. Please consider subscribing Tow us on Spotify apple podcasts, Google podcasts or YouTube. You can find out more about the show onto passion project dot com where you can also support by purchasing a passion project T shirt. We've got a whole bunch of colors available, and each purchase helps us keep the show afloat. Cured. A final Dakota Kartal. My name is history on Alban and welcome to To Passion Project. It's a passion project is a pod cost aimed at those people who are wanting to take that first step towards making it happen. Thank you so much for tuning in. And I hope you enjoy the show. Um, so we're carny. What part of Manila we in?
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We're in B G C
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bro is the story, you see?
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Yeah, because the hotel is called uptown
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BDC I Oh, that's right. That's right. Um, So I guess training me for this episode off a passion project is Lyndon Cora. So, um, borrowed the lighted man. So if you just quickly let the people know, like, just a bit about yourself, man, and who you are and what you do for a living,
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you are. So as his one says, my name is Lyndon. Um, I was born in the Philippines over here, but I I went to New Zone when I was Ah, little toddler. Um, grew up there on the shore. No show for life. Um, I went to high school. Plainfield. You g g filled for life. C D c. Yeah. Um, What I do? Yes, I'm a teacher. Um, I've been teaching for about five years, and, um, I love it.
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That's awesome, Bug. So you're you're not. You're an educator.
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Pretty much as they say in the educator. A lifelong learner.
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Yeah. Now, that's cool, man. So, did you start your teaching career off in New Zealand, or how did that
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work? Yeah, we're So I started off in New Zealand. Um, actually didn't know what I was going to do until I was year 13 you know, after after the exams. But then I had a deep, deep I thought of myself and I said, I wanna not only do things for myself, but I want to do it for other people as well, just to give back to the community to go back to the people. That's more in need. Yet
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that's interesting, man. Because, like you said, lifelong learners and it's Do you do you reckon, is quite selfish for if you were to, like, learn a new skill and keep it to yourself? Or do you want to teach other people to do that? For example, like with this whole podcasting man, I've got on quite a few mates who were also willing who also wanting to get something started. And I guess, knowing someone who's into a certain type of hobby or whatever, you know.
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Yeah, okay, so teaching is more than transferring knowledge. It's about, um, you know, allowing others to grow, you know, whether it be mentally, physically, socially. And I just think, um, giving back and providing that care that nurture that the young ones need is is obviously as cliche as it sounds is very important to the generation of you know of this world.
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So what sort of age bracket are you teaching? So I'm currently
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a primary school teacher. Uhm, that's from the age of 4 to 13 legally allowed to teach. And I did that for three years in Oakland University of Technology. Um, yeah, I did. My bachelors then went straight to my teaching. Actually, my first teaching job was in South Auckland, where it's as you know, it's a pretty rough area, but it's something that I always wanted to do because living on the shore as you know, complete opposite off. You know, the spectrum's off low social, economic and, you know, just the living standard is you know, it's very different.
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I've got a couple of teachers from both primary and secondary school by that, you know, really left an impact on my life. I still sort of remember not not The curriculum listens, but like the life lessons that they bring to the class for absolute. Did you have anyone like that in your life that you sort of carried through throughout your education in it and that you looked upon? It's sort of like an inspiration to become a teacher yourself.
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Absolutely. Men like as, um, as a teacher myself. You know, looking back on those days, there was a few teachers that inspired me not only because you know they were good at what they're doing, but because they brought confidence in me. But like you know how it is when someone brings you confidence and the the ability to, you know have the potential like they gave me some of my friends of my or some. Some of my parents are so sorry family even. You know, they didn't encourage me or they didn't give me enough support. But then it was the teachers in primary school, because in primary school, you know they don't teach by the books they teach, you know, they teach by, you know, like social well being your physical well being. They care for your social needs as well. You're it's more than just academic needs. That's that's what really you know, really, What sits a primary school Teacher park compared to a high school teacher?
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So have you Bean also trained to teach high schoolers? Or that is the way that teachers are taught to become educators. Is that is there a major difference between the age record that you're teaching and order goods?
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Yeah, absolutely. Like so obviously in primary school,
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a little bit more like,
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yeah, the more what you call it, they're more susceptible to I wouldn't call it change, and it's an important part of their lives, you know, to be molded, to be to be to be shaped and along those years from 5 to 13. There's a crucial moments or crucial stages of their lives where you can have a have a positive impact. Because obviously in high school, you know, you people already have. You know that they already have, like, a brain, or they already have, like they already know what's wrong and right.
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It's very developed, yes, really
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develop. But then, in primary school, that's that's where it's, you know, that's how
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mine's a little bit more valuable.
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Yeah, exactly. It's it's really important
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here. So for me, men personally, like I never had a male teacher until high school more. And is that a common thing in New Zealand, or what? Because you're a male primary school teacher. I never had male primary school teachers. Bart is that Is there a shift in the in the article in the industry industry, yet absolutely industry, just like in
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health, education and health. They have a more female. It's a small female dominant OK, but I'm saying that there's always gonna be like a male teacher in a school because, um, the principal of the school government governor, they want males so that they can inspire and fulfill boys is needs. Obviously, they were once, you know, a little a little boy, and obviously they have a lot more knowledge and more contexts to help those boys. And usually I'm not saying boys are more in need, but, like generally the the misbehaving ones the most from the ones that, um, I don't want to say more silly, but like they're they're a bit more creative on what they do. And obviously having a positive realm having a positive male role model brings that. You know, it brings that change and brings that different difference that female teachers can't not saying that they can't teach boys. But I'm just saying, um, studies and science shows that having a male influence in your life as you know, it's like a dead role model. You know, it's it's it's different.
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What subjects do you teach from?
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Okay, so the main subjects that I teach, um, r p physical education, Um, but a science, maths and English. Those are the core subjects at him, like, uh, able to teach or, um, certified to teach in. But because primary, you know, it's not a you're not. It's not, um, what you call it. It's not specialized, like in high school. You get selected based on you know, your Mets or you're a science teacher. But obviously it is as a school teacher and primary, you know, you have to be an all rounder,
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and those subjects that you do, you teach. Man, How did you do yourself as a student off bro like that? Do you have to be real proficient at those particular subjects to teach them? Or how does that work? People think
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like to be a teacher, you need to be Nito Nito. Have all this content knowledge. You have this brains, but if you can't transfer the skills that you're learning toe other learners, I mean t o for For teachers, it's not just teaching. It's about Lerner's learning, right? You can be the brainiest, smartest teacher. You can be the smartest person, but you can't transfer your knowledge. If you can't make the learners learn. You know how. How is that teaching? Teaching is more about learning than actual teaching itself.
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That's pretty cool, man. So you don't necessarily have, like, a thorough knowledge off those subject that you obviously
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you need to have a
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certain level level to be in a live within the average person. Yeah, absolutely. If it And saying
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that like teaching and learning goes hand in hand like, um, you know, without teaching, you can't learn on without learning. You can't teach like you need a That's why in this in this generation, um, it's the teaching is very different compared to what our parents had back in the days where the teachers are in the front of the classroom doing everything in the class. But now teachers are like going around helping each each student for forming a group work. Um, and you know, it's it's more of a practical skill than transferring knowledge. Yeah, and yeah, and some in. One of the reasons for that is because students he's in this generation. They can't learn just by reading, looking, reading. They need to be able to be doing as well, kinesthetic learning. That's one of the important things. And
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it's not through a process of osmosis that yourself exactly
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like, um, what you call it, um, teaches. I was forgot what I was going to say, but it's not a teacher, is not just it's not even the students that teaches, you know, they create their learning the South, they're independent and you know they have to problem. So it's not just teachers providing knowledge. It's also, um, kids asking questions, posing questions, posing. What if What if I can't do this? How do I make myself better? You know, it's It's about self improvement. What I
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really found interesting about you because we've been to a couple of parties together where we've played this game called Mafia. For those of you Don't know, Mafia's where there's a group of people and you get assigned the Mafia and civilians and basically the civilians have to just try to find out who the Mafia is mafias to kill off the civilians. What I found interesting about you men is that your bloody good at this game, bro? Like the observation skills that you have When you're like pointing out people like I suspect you for this. I suspect you for that. I was quite impressed. Man. Did you pick up those observational skills as a teacher or were you already quite observant anyway?
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No, I really picked it up as a teacher. Like as going up. I don't really care what people think, what people do. But as a teacher you need to be obviously observant and everything like in your in your students, in your planning, in your, um, you know, just the content that you're teaching you need to be. You need to know what what makes each person tick, you know, and you need to know how and why they behave a certain way. And if that certain behavior is connected, toe annoy idea, then obviously, that's gonna back up your your you know, your judgment on things. That's it's not a trick. It's not a trick any, you know. It's nothing magical. It's just pure instinct and awareness and just just your knowledge, really. It's just
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something that only you can learn through experience. Yeah, there's someone to be observant. Little no, no eyes peeled like
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yeah, like obviously like you need to know how and obviously like facial expression as well, burn that. That's a massive thing. Even though you can, you can bluff your way through you, so you're still able to. I mean, I was once we were all once like a child, and obviously I know how Children think on work and that's the same. That's its involvement to how we are as adults now. It's nothing different.
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It must be so fulfilling as well. Toe, um, you know when you're teaching the student and you finally see that they click and they understand the concept that you're trying to teach. Yeah,
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well, obviously, as teachers, that's one of the main things is, if you're transferring knowledge, instilling knowledge you want you want, you want the recipient to understand it. You don't just want information coming in and coming out right. That's I mean,
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what's the point of that? What's the point? You're a good teacher,
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but you're not making your students learn. So you're not. You're not a teacher. You just regurgitating information. Yeah, everyone, anyone can do that. Um, but yeah, I mean, obviously, when a winning, when an idea has come across correctly, or when a child understands how and why they do things, it's It's this pride in you. It's It's this joy that you can't describe because it's something that you can't take back, and it's something that you've made a difference in there and no, only in that moment of time. But they can also apply it in there. You know their lives afterwards.
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So your careers obviously brought youto china. Yeah. You Before this war in Italy, he told in Dubai? No. So one of
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the options was actually Dubai. Um, obviously, I was teaching in New Zealand for about five years, and I just thought a, You know, I'm I was very comfortable, Like I taught in a rough area in South Auckland. I was teaching in West Oakland. I pretty much taught in different parts of Oakland that I knew the diversity and the range of the kids. But even if I did, teach in New Zealand would have wouldn't have made a big difference. So I decided to teach overseas, which is unexpectedly, I was in China. Yeah,
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So China's a hot topic at the moment with the hips and cov. Yes, the Corona virus. And that's part of the reason why you're in the Philippines carnies. You know, you're so you are currently based as a teacher in China yet, and you had to fly out specifically because of what's happening right now.
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Yes. Oh, how this works is every because it's it's actually Chinese New Year at this at this stage. And during Chinese New Year, we have a break, and we know we can have a holiday wherever we like. And obviously, um, I chose to buy because I've never been there. And I know friends and people that are there. Obviously, it might be a future plan to move there off the China one day. And so when? There And when I was there, the virus
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also. So you weren't in the country when it when the outbreak occurred?
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No, because I wasn't ready to fly
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already out. Yeah, I work. So, having been exposed to it, yeah, that's a good thing. I was like a virus. No, But prior to
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the coronavirus, I've enjoyed my time in China. Like they treat me. Well, um, you know, um what? I have so much benefits, like in the school I get to eat for free transport has provided, um, you know, get a decent salary a lot higher than what New Zealand can provide in terms of terms of this. And, you know, I've been able to save a lot. I've been able to, um what is it called? Um, pay off my student loan, which I'm quite happy about Congratulations, man. Jasmine. Appreciate it wasn't It wasn't easy, but I had to be done. Somehow.
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It's pretty high Mountain to climb. It s still learned it.
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Yeah, I think I think it's every student's dreams awhile requirements that they I have to do. And I think it wasn't easy to even though, like even before China had to budget united, too. I had to sacrifice a lot like I had to minimize my partying or minimize going out or packing my own lunch. Um, you know, like use walking, walking to school, you know, not using public transport. Just those little things add up after, like, 10 years off, because I Yeah, because it was only after 10 years of after uni that I that I paid it off, which is which is quite good again.
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It must be quite fulfilling for you Bar to be able to say that you know you're doing your passion and it's taken you to different parts of the world. You'll be able to experience different cultures, experience different languages, different foods. Absolutely. There must be like so autumn. Oh, man, it's like every person's dream to be able to say that Yemen My passions, taking me places
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Yemen, like this is my dream. This is I've always wanted to travel and, you know, meet people and connect. But I didn't think I would be teaching at the same time There, you know, like it was just the dream come true and a blessing in disguise. And, you know, it's something that I'm not I'm never going to take for granted because not everyone has disposition off where I am. And, um, obviously it was that took a lot of hard work, too. Make a decision to move overseas. I mean, obviously, New Zealand was comfortable, but in order to be in order to maximize your potential, too, um, I'll grow your fears and to actually live a life on your own. You know, to say that you've made your own decisions is I think is really fulfilling in itself. You know, it makes me proud and happy that obviously I've had encouragement from parents and a few of my friends, but I've always had to. It was always a dream of mine to to move overseas, to work overseas and live overseas. And I'm
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as much as we love Altero
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Otero is always gonna be home for, like, you know that like it's that's where we that's where we grew up, that's we were born And that's how we know that's how we have our values, Bo. But like, you know, as as they say, you know, Al Tater is always gonna be in our hearts. But you know that the world is small and we have to We have to move places.
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Is that something also that you instill in your students? You know, just follow your dreams for their passions or stripy like, you know, I mean yes, in a way, because
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it's an international school. And obviously an international school has a Western concept off thinking, whereas the Chinese or an Asian respective has that, you know, after college or after school, you have to study. You have to get good grades. You have to, um, give back, you know, to the parents, all but the Western view is more of off your individual accomplishment. I'm not saying it's a sense of selfishness, Never better. That's it's It's more of being open minded to more opportunities. That's that's what an international school, um, should have not just you know, Um uh, a direct solution or our process, You know, like the Children, the students that that that are in school, you know, they can go to different parts of the world because they have their internationally qualified because they're they're attending an international school. And so if they want to work or go to school and Yale or Harvard, you know they'll be recognized because they went to an international school. Whereas a few if you just went to a public school, you know, as advantaged or you're not as, um,
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well, sit up, too.
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Yeah, exactly. You're over, Seymour certified because international school, you're more you know, they think the school's think that you have had education other than your own culture.
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So in in your professional environment, like you just said, it's obviously revolves around the Western. Thinking is a quite jarring for uber When you when you come out of work, thio everyday life in China because obviously the transition from western toe no more Oriental way of thinking. Do you experience any any setbacks at all during the time they're
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actually No, this is the thing. Like as an international school, that means you have international teachers, international workers. That means if they're from New Zealand there from Australia, u K the U. S, Canada, those English speaking countries. And so I don't feel any out of place. I don't feel the need to go back to New Zealand because I have so much, um, support system, you know, like, I have so much fun. Oh, but I have, like, seven teachers that are from New Zealand, and so we just talk every day, and it feels like I'm just I'm at home
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to the kids, ask you see the haka and stuff. Yeah, but like they know, like New Zealand, they know they know this is
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international meetings, international celebrations. Um, each year and and then that and then that frame in that moment, each each class has to represent a country
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Leave practice. Your paper, huh? Yeah. I've actually got
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a like a video of us doing this. Coleman, What is it called? Yeah, and like a total mind. Tito remind you, we
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owe you
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know all that on. It's stuff that museum and kids need to go through here. We had to teach that, but I'm not. It's nice, cause I don't. It's just a blessing that, um I get to be part of something that, um that I'm you know, im that I feel a sense of belonging because I have some. I have people that are from different or they're from the same country, but also other countries as well, like a zay, said the US, UK Canada. But it's saying that an international school has also Chinese teachers, so we learned from each other. Each plus has there has a Chinese teacher and a Western teacher, so they learn hand in hand. We learn Chinese concepts, and they learn international concept.
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It's quite funny, Azzaman that, you know you're a Western teacher, but it still asian.
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Yeah, but that's the third was 1/3 party. Our third was it called. It's like it's like you're born in a certain place, but then you don't look. You don't look.
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You don't look a certain part. But then, no, it's cool.
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I mean, obviously, it's there's a lot of stereotypes in that, Um, I mean, obviously like, for example, is American. You can be. You're gonna be why you could be black. You can be Mexican, then the fuel, like if if If someone says New Zealand, obviously they think either. You know,
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you're what, New Zealand,
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European or motive? But
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actually, people think
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they don't. You know, like the Chinese people. They think I'm either, um themselves like Chinese people Filipino, Mexican or Spanish, like Beta Norbert like. And I think that's that school because you know
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what? Ambiguous? Yeah, it's ambiguous, but
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it just shows like how you know you can't really judge a book by its cover is you know is easy as a title Mace may see may seem, you know, like
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which is cool
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a cz Well, because, you know, other other coaches can learn off you and I could bring are the languages into the scene and my cultural experiences in obviously Philippines and New Zealand. Um, I mean, obviously Philippines, an aging country, and I think it's allowed me to adapt even better then some of my Western friends that are obviously grew up in New Zealand fully born and bred. I mean, obviously has agents. We we like rice and you know, we can adapt bidder and those sorts of things, whereas you know other western countries that they prefer their potatoes they prefer their likes Steaks on. I like I like steak, But, like, you know, I guess were more, um um open minded and warm or what is it called? More flexible And what we're able to eat and do.
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Did you have any type of identity crisis growing up? Because I recall coming through primary school, I was It was a majority white man. And sometimes I think, you know, I don't look like I don't like my friend like them. Yeah, to be honest, not
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really. Like growing up as a primary school student. I had friends from, you know, India, friends from, um I mean, Chinese people had I'd like a few Filipino friends in primary school was only until until in high school, Like where I thought Oh, yeah, like I'm I'm a New Zealander, but I'm also a Filipino. But, you know, like obviously we're New Zealand kiwis and museum kiwis, but also sorry, New Zealand Filipinos, I'd say, But no, I've never had I've never taken that against against me against our race. I looked more of that as a positive than as a negative. Because we can speak well. I can speak English and the gala, but obviously might think Alex. Probably rusty. Probably as bad as yours. Burn, but probably probably even even worse now because you're in the Philippines Bar. But yeah,
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it's funny, man, huh? Almost 3.5 months now. Men yet and I don't think my colleagues improved actual. I mean, because you speak English. The number, especially in my workplace, is why friends English there. So I haven't really had the chance to practice. But it's quite funny because when I'm with my cousins or my Tito's and stuff like that and you know where having some metal drinks? Yeah, my might The gala Gleick improves and said, Is the English way sort of like meet in the middle? Yeah. Mutual. Have you picked up any Mandarin or Cantonese? Anything like that, Uber like obviously in China. Will the Ming's Isha his road? Oh, your names, his running things? It's Joellen, then Sure. Okay, Yeah, obviously
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like China isn't, um, a Western country, and obviously they're still learning to speak English. But the majority of our students are able to speak, read right and understand English. It's the it's the elderly. It's the adults that have heaven had the English education when they were younger. That's the main problem. Obviously, in school we can speak English. In the majority of the time, it's fine, but outside of it, when you have to go outside and bargain, go outside to shop. Obviously, you need to know how to, you know, make the price is lower, or ask for directions if you're if you're lost or, you know just simple things like that. But
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on a seal,
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I it's not that bad, because in this generation we have our phones and our phones have translation Epps that you can speak into. So I just speak in English, and then it it comes out as Chinese, and so there'll be a they'll understand. Obviously it's Chinese and they'll speak into it until the speaker and Chinese. And then it comes out in English, though it's like it's quite easy. And if that doesn't work, I could just show them in English, and then it comes out. It's Chinese,
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so obviously you want to buy before coming here, brother. And you're telling me earlier that it was a one way ticket that you purchased? Yeah, So tell me about that man one way took a winning. When you going back to China, you have our like going back to Dubai. Oh, even New Zealand. So what's up with them in?
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So obviously due to the coronavirus, what we've had to, um, stay put away from China. I mean, some of my colleagues is still in China, but, you know, they restricted like they
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can't lock down. They can't leave now that there are, they are
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able to leave, just not in Wuhan. See, that's a myth. That's another misconception broke. People think if you're in China, you can't leave. You can just not just only in Wuhan, that you can't because that's the best the most infected on
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where about so you bury it. So I'm based in
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Beijing. That's the capital of China. It's quite a nice bustling city full of modern and also historical sites. So I love it. There I it's really safe, and it's a mix of new and old. You know, it's not just the city where it's just full of skyscrapers, and it's not just the city full of temples and, you know, old shenanigans. It's like a mixture of both, and I love it. It's just also Yeah. Sorry. What was
spk_1: 32:34
the one way ticket here? One way. What's your plans?
spk_0: 32:36
Your one way ticket. So obviously we've had to do online learning. Um um in order for for online learning toe work, we need to have ah, Blake, same time zones as China. And if I had to go back to New Zealand, obviously the time zones would be really different. I had I would have to wake up it like, I don't know, a later date or at the works. Yeah, or work at a later hour. And I just thought Philippines was the best case scenario because obviously it's cheap, it's accessible, and it's the same time zones. But for now, we're providing our students content online. It's it's a bit different. Birth like this is not what we trained to do. But, um, that's something that
spk_1: 33:23
we were not that
spk_0: 33:24
gotta be done yet, but, I mean, it's it's actually quite flexible, Like I can choose my hours of, um, work, But obviously we have, like, a certain, um, you know, certain toss certain tusks that we need to fulfill, you know, deliver to the students and, you know, each each day. You know it, Sze. It's a different, um, learning experiences for them because obviously, obviously, you know, online learnings it's a lot different too. Actual learning and class. And yes, For the meantime, I'm just staying put in Philippines. I'm on a working holiday. Um, until when they say the virus is, you know, slowly come down. And when the officials say that school will begin in this, then I'll book my
spk_1: 34:17
Is there any indication as to how long that'll U s
spk_0: 34:20
o off? Our principal said it's expected to last about a month. So it's currently February right enough every 9 10 And so he said, It's gonna be at least much much, so I can be here
spk_1: 34:38
for a while
spk_0: 34:38
for well over at least much even April.
spk_1: 34:41
What's up in China with stuff like Facebook? Youtube. Yet? The Internet? Yeah. Is it quite restricted over there?
spk_0: 34:50
Yeah. Bar. So China has their own censorship. They don't allow foreign sites toe work because China has has their own. Um, you know, they have their own ways off community communicating, and they want their own sort of concept. You know, they're quite, um I wouldn't want. I don't want to say stubborn, but they want to make things on there. You know they want to make make it like as though because it's hard to explain. But
spk_1: 35:23
pretty much they want isolate themselves. Yeah,
spk_0: 35:26
they want isolate themselves. But then, but it's not. It's not possible because there's this thing called VPN. VPN is called the Virtual Private Network, which enables your location on your phone or your computer to be to be on another location so I could be like in America. I can be in New Zealand, but also I'm living in China. But you know, my phone thinks that I'm addressed or located in a different location other than China, and that's that's all good. And and even though it's illegal, um,
spk_1: 36:06
like cops combust on your door in, Take you Yes, however,
spk_0: 36:12
um yes, on paper, Yes, but they that's never gonna happen because Chinese people need international exposure in order for their business or in order for their learning the concept to grow. You know they want they want to make partnerships. They want to make relationships with other countries as as restrict as restricted as they are as they as they want to hide their certain information. They still wanna, um, what you call it evolve into the into the world. Pretty much they still want to have that exposure that they were proud of to be Chinese sick, like Wow way. Obviously they're Chinese Chinese, are they massive? They, like, probably taken thio apple And, you know, like the world has, you know, different changing. It's, I mean, it's because it's It's cheap, you know, And it's functional, whereas like iPhone uses, Um, obviously it's the simplicity and it's the it's the usage and the, you know, the brand that makes it that makes it sell. But I'm Yeah, there's no problems with accessing Facebook instagram, you know,
spk_1: 37:27
just you know I'm on
spk_0: 37:28
it for, you know, I'm on it.
spk_1: 37:29
I mean, that's how we talk anyway, So we're just going back to the hole. Technological. You know, you're teaching online. Yeah, we're or enough to remember being taught using blackboards. Bo. I remember thinking that white boards were quite modern, from changing from chalk and blackboard. Seven pins and wipe wei still learn, you know, pencil paper. Do you think that the advancements in technology or like do your students have access? Toe tablets or left tops are absolutely. They bring that to class. Yes, you're connecting, effected, more effective than our dinner guests and along putting pen to paper.
spk_0: 38:10
Actually, our school requires each student to have a Mac book or
spk_1: 38:14
Mac book ever. It's a requirement. Yeah, well, they have it because I remember the requirements. We were like a 1 35 foot subject. What's to be pencil? Exactly? We're
spk_0: 38:26
picking happy Bir, but not like burn. This generation's completely different Bern man and the kids in our school, their privilege. Kids like I live in an area where they're
spk_1: 38:37
quite well,
spk_0: 38:37
well off and but in saying that their attitudes are are not as in tuned as we want it to be, so as much as much education as much as we want them to learn content and academically, there's also the social needs that they need to. You know that they that they need to develop because because obviously what you call it, um, China's ah, one off. So it's it's It's too now, too two to, um, what you call to child system, where you're allowed to
spk_1: 39:18
the upgraded it from one
spk_0: 39:19
year where they upgraded to one. But now I'm coming back to the online learning. I think it's essential, to be honest, because in order for them to advance in order for this world toe advance, you need thio. You need some little you need some, you know, literacy and technology bar. And then I think the kids need exposure to that. But in saying that, it doesn't mean that they're still writing birthday, still writing a pencil. They're still riding with them with pins, and they still have a chalk, boards and stuff. It's just in a additional, Um, it's a a resource.
spk_1: 39:56
My handwriting sucks. No, man, because it's been a while since I've had, You know, if you write something down, we never have to sign something. Then news Live Far will hold up in Nakano Turpin. You ever I mean same as me. I hardly
spk_0: 40:09
hold a pencil or a pen. I mean, probably just five minutes each day, just, you know, going through their work and just seeing and just it's
spk_1: 40:21
all technology these days. So interesting about it, because when you're signing up toe like when you're filling out forms and stuff, the analysis for email, like its environment to provide an email address, mobile number or things like that. Absolutely. Where is back in the day? It was physically like your physical address. People can get by nowadays not having a physical address, because the world so mobile, you can bring your work review off. You got left up in an Internet connection? Yeah, for example, man does. This is this podcast park and can be mean if I were the streets. Exactly. Bring it to the blanket will bring it to the to the cafe that Victoria Davis, Aurea Greenhill, Zeman uber anyway, Bo. And it's you know, if if you if you put your mind to it, you can you can actually work anywhere now. Absolutely. Do you think there's also moved? So the whole education system as well, where you don't physically need to be in school or so do you think that we still need toe put students in classroom?
spk_0: 41:21
So in China and in Japan, they creating robots like and they say one day they're gonna replace teachers, and that's what we're we're scared off. But where we're hoping that it's not in our generation of being a teacher of it, because obviously it will be to get fired, and a robot will be there. But to be honest, I'd say I'd say, like in the next 100 years, a human being will still be a teacher, like maybe a robot in some lessons. Or like, uh,
spk_1: 41:56
because the teacher, the teacher student system has been around for you. Yeah, but I can only understand
spk_0: 42:03
a robot being, um, content, knowledge savvy. But, like, I don't know if it can pick up feelings or come pick up, um, trajectory or, um, you know, indications of behavior,
spk_1: 42:17
because there's also an emotional connection. Yeah, an emotional connection And emotional, um, element T learning. Absolutely. Because, you know, sometimes you know, you're feels gun like heartbreak, and then I never want to feel that way.
spk_0: 42:38
That's crack up. Um, s o I I still think, you know, teachers will still be here. People will still be in front of the classrooms instead of robots, maybe in certain parts of China or Japan. Little practice that. But as far as I'm concerned, there's no danger of us leaving this profession.
spk_1: 43:01
In my last episode bar, I was speaking boy with my boy Chris, and he pretty much the central points off that episode was you know, he didn't pursue a degree. Do you think there's also a move towards move away? Sorry from the formal, like qualification based system where, as you know, just do drew a lot of success from the experience that he from work experience. There's a bit of a Catch 22 that you know places will only hire people with experience, But you can only get experienced by working. Working. You think there's a move away from, you know, the formal qualification aspect off education.
spk_0: 43:45
I mean, like, obviously in order to be a engineer or like an I t. Or not
spk_1: 43:50
gonna be registered for all that, Yes, we need you
spk_0: 43:52
need a degree in those areas. But professions such as, like a carpenter or ah, builder or an entrepreneur. You don't need a degree, E. I mean,
spk_1: 44:02
you need some
spk_0: 44:03
sort of qualifications, but you don't need a formal three year degree. And you know that Sze kind of self taught those those areas and I have a few friends that and have successfully, um, going into that situation like either a builder or entrepreneur or a, You know, one of those areas that don't demand a qualification. And they're, you know, they're they're well off. They've got a few houses, you know, the a few kids, they're financially stable. I mean, I'm not I'm not saying everyone do that. I'm not saying don't get a degree. Don't don't do formal education. But I think in this day of age, it's increasing. You know, the chances are of actually making it. Making a big doesn't necessarily mean former education, you know? I mean, who, who, who, who, who are the people in the world that didn't attend formal education and look where they are? We can name a few already. So
spk_1: 45:11
yeah, going back Thio New Zealand. But I think you're a member of quite an elite group or you're a homeowner student loan free. What does that feel like, man? Yeah. I mean, obviously it feels good
spk_0: 45:24
being in being a homeowner age of 25. And it's something that something that
spk_1: 45:31
that's something to be quite proud of. It. I mean, it is
spk_0: 45:34
it is, But I wouldn't have done it. I wouldn't have you know, survived or made it that far if if it wasn't for people that trusted me, loved me and encouraged me. You know, obviously you need people. We need connections in order to succeed by And, um is the house owner, obviously is. I said before I had to budget a lot, I had to sacrifice my, um, social time to sacrifice being, you know, being a student or being what you call it, avoiding the luxuries in life during my I don't know. When I was a teenager, I guess 15 to 25. I mean,
spk_1: 46:14
I would still
spk_0: 46:15
go like, bye. Buy clothes in all that. But I was just kind of smart And how I, um, wasn't my financials, and obviously I wouldn't have done it. I wouldn't have made it if it weren't for my parents as well. I mean, I borrowed a few, um, feudal. A few dollars, few cents off them. And obviously thanks to kiwi kiwi, save it.
spk_1: 46:37
Oh, yes,
spk_0: 46:38
in the bank. So it wasn't just my own own will and all own will and hard work. It was a combination of a lot of things.
spk_1: 46:49
So, like, schools, you know, obviously need to be illiterate in numeracy. and literacy as well. I mean, the students. Yeah, have, Ah, stuff like financial literacy, man, because ah, in terms of Lawson Museum, where there was me anyway, there wasn't much of an emphasis on that part off of life. You know, like in school. I don't really get taught. You know how taxes worked or anything like that. Well, like there's this subject called accounting, bro. And I sucked at that. I sucked it, But did you take level 12 and three? Bravo. Yeah, Well, did they tell you, like, you know, that profit minus X? Yeah, but like this is like in the real world
spk_0: 47:32
in the real world, Like how to budget. How do you know do time management and all that? I guess it's just the skill that you learn and that skill that
spk_1: 47:43
are bolting. Yeah, people teach you,
spk_0: 47:45
but like, obviously like people older than you, instill their experiences and knowledge. And they say that if you keep partying or if you keep doing you know what, students or what people do in these days, they buy the latest gadget smart phones and they buy the crazy shoes. You know,
spk_1: 48:05
you're never
spk_0: 48:06
going to go that far or
spk_1: 48:07
they go. They go
spk_0: 48:08
on holiday birth like they go on like this yearly holiday. Um, you know to just I mean, I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but that's how that's one of the things. One of the reasons why it's hard full students to save up is because they can afford to travel. You know, they can afford to fork out money to travel. But then after that, it's like, What? How many hundreds do you have? Is that going to buy your house? Is that gonna buy you? Is that are you gonna live off that for a few years? You know, they're not thinking long term exactly like they're they're fulfilling their needs short term. But I think obviously, in this day and age, um, you need to be financially stable and that, you know, if you're financially stable, your you're obviously more When you call it, you're more. Mmm. What do you call it? His Ron like you're more set up for the future of your moral like E. You know, you're
spk_1: 49:11
just more out there both. There's more options. How early on did you realize that? All right, I don't wanna be thinking no short term stuff. I want to become a homeowner and investment money properly. Like how early on did you realize that cause 25. That's pretty young.
spk_0: 49:26
Yeah, I was pretty young. Well, I think I started working a to the age of 15. Burke, because that's the legally where food time. Count on
spk_1: 49:35
you. Yes, you were ordered not to call the food sound cause I remember being food. Whatever I said before, I was earning like,
spk_0: 49:41
$8 an hour.
spk_1: 49:43
Doesn't know where I was so happy like
spk_0: 49:47
and at the end of like a shift, I was earning, like, 80 bucks
spk_1: 49:50
mur. That's like a lot of money for 15 year old man
spk_0: 49:55
bus Trent. That's like you're like you
spk_1: 49:57
80 Hot car keeps
spk_0: 49:59
your mince and cheese pie off the school.
spk_1: 50:03
Dude, I really must pies, man. Stop in New Zealand sausage rolls. But if you ever had a sausage roll here, uh, Philippines? No, it's an actual, like sausage inside pastry. It's not like the ones at home. It's no, I took a bite and that was that. No. Fuck you ever like for me? Like I didn't
spk_0: 50:24
I didn't I refrain myself of eating those? You know, when I had, like, saying my $80 salary, I would just say light at the end of the week off. Oh, crap. You know, or like when it's when it's payday it, like with boys? Yeah, something like that. I don't splurge on just, you know, things that I don't take my money, you know, for granted. I kind of just wanna invest in something a lot bigger. And I knew, you know, if if I started at an early age, like at the age of 15 by the time I was say, likes a continuous time actually calculated, um, the financial, you know, position where I was like, you know, obviously, like a few years in food Town Countdown. And then it's
spk_1: 51:16
a lot of foresight to have Well, as a 15 year old,
spk_0: 51:19
you ever Well, I think when when your parents are business minded and when they have the say, the the capacity to, you know, and still, um, that knowledge and you to be able to not just save money but invest on money. I think that's what that's what's. That's a different site like
spk_1: 51:43
let the money work for you as a tow, working for the money you because you can
spk_0: 51:48
save money. But then your health can suffer and that's you know you can. You can die at the age of at an early agents. There will be a millionaire. And so what? Like you haven't achieved much. And it's equally important to, um, to manage and to control your health broke like that's That's the second thing. I think that's your health. Your well being. Yeah, like it's not just all about, um, money or financial. It's It's
spk_1: 52:18
how you think. Bright's
spk_0: 52:19
positivity. It's how you connect with people would tell you a CZ, you know, you exercise, you know, health is wealth. That's that's I think that's the concept that I, um, took from the age of 15. Um, and you know, I had I even sorry I forgot to add this. I had sidelines as well worry that I'm baby sitting, you know, under the table stuff. And that helped, you know
spk_1: 52:49
that would have also formed a foe that formed it prepares you for your teaching careers or being involved with kids. Yeah, absolutely. Like, that was one of my
spk_0: 52:57
inspirations. Well, not know integrations, but it was just a platform to step into teaching her guests
spk_1: 53:03
here. Yeah. Stockman, would you ever consider going back and to further education? Masters PhD. Anything? Yes, you did. You depose You had to do some post grad studies, right?
spk_0: 53:17
Um, wasn't post credit was just sir teaching certificate. It's like a teaching English as a foreign language. That's not a post. Great. That's more for teaching loners. There are. There are English first learner's. You know her. So, yeah, I'm still considering of doing Post Grad, because, um, obviously and obviously in your CV, it looks better. And obviously schools would hire you. Um, well, obviously, hire more of, ah, masters or a person that's got a higher degree of education, then, like, say, a bachelor. But again, it's just paper. It's a lot of it is based on the interview like it
spk_1: 54:03
doesn't matter how well qualified you are. You are. You have any people skills then So
spk_0: 54:07
are overqualified. And they've been rejected and interviews because their interview select
spk_1: 54:13
the elected interpersonal school. Yes. Connection,
spk_0: 54:16
they elect just the way they deliver things. They like that just overall. You know, what what interview you want wants, You know, as it gets,
spk_1: 54:30
it's, It's more. It's more of
spk_0: 54:32
a conversation about, like an interview. If you treat it as a question and answer,
spk_1: 54:38
you've already said it yourself. Yeah, most
spk_0: 54:39
likely you're gonna fail, bro. It's It's like this. It's like it's a conversation you
spk_1: 54:44
need a connect
spk_0: 54:44
for, like to your principal. And that's how I got the job in China. But I got I got the online Skype interview burn like
spk_1: 54:55
I had to be formal over here. Put down that down there. I was wearing short,
spk_0: 55:01
obviously, you know, I knew
spk_1: 55:02
that on some course. You know, you, like, stood up instructions. Yeah. I mean, it was just
spk_0: 55:11
the blessing in this guy some that that that position came and I took it with open arms and and Oh, yeah, I've extended my contract. That was
spk_1: 55:21
supposed to be equal. Yeah, it was only
spk_0: 55:23
supposed to be for two years, but, um,
spk_1: 55:26
time just flies. You
spk_0: 55:28
have bean away for nearly two years. How How crazy is that? But obviously one of us. One of the reasons why I accepted the job is because they allow me to travel. They allow me to go on business trips. The alarm If
spk_1: 55:41
you're a teacher,
spk_0: 55:41
you know, you've got a lot of holidays like
spk_1: 55:44
your holidays do, in fact line up with students as well. Yeah. Obviously you have. Here. What you gonna do? Like, what do you do during the holidays? I traveled. Yeah, I I've
spk_0: 55:55
bean to five countries last year, and I wasn't able to do that in the other year prior, prior to last year. You know, I've traveled to countries that have I never thought I'd, um
spk_1: 56:09
where have you been?
spk_0: 56:10
So I've been to so last year, the first travel off his offices of the Philippines. That was the first, because obviously, it's really close. And obviously, it's a luxury going back to the Philippines, because if you're from New Zealand, like,
spk_1: 56:23
yeah, Philippines, that that's not
spk_0: 56:25
in every year thing, bro. But burr, it's like for
spk_1: 56:27
us anyway. Yeah, you know, people of humble means, but it's like gone
spk_0: 56:33
Australia bar like it's just three hours
spk_1: 56:36
just around the corner.
spk_0: 56:37
Yeah, three off three or four hours and yeah, I took that. And then I went to Thailand. Um, went to Bangkok. I mean, that's that's in Thailand. But other countries
spk_1: 56:48
even click, man. I'm real tired. Yeah, we're also five Bean to Dubai. All right,
spk_0: 56:55
um, we're also have bean to Mongolia. Inner Mongolia cheese. You ever like this place? Is that I'm
spk_1: 57:03
sure I've been
spk_0: 57:04
to one more. I and I traveled back to New Zealand. Just Hamburg. Yeah. Hang with the finer.
spk_1: 57:11
I think being in this part of the world as well obviously makes things a bit more excessive because you're a lot closer come from New Zealand. You know, your hours away from everywhere.
spk_0: 57:18
Yeah, that's correct. Are like ages. Ages, like,
spk_1: 57:22
just around the corner. And it's so easy to do things, because for us, I mean from Auckland, you know, you could you could plan a weekend trip to, like Sydney. Yeah, open. Whatever. Just come back, Come back to work on Monday, you know?
spk_0: 57:35
Absolutely. Bar there. There was a time where Well, it's not my experience, but the experience of my my colleagues, they went They went to, um Ah, different country. I think it was like Vietnam. They left on a Friday night after school, and then they returned, like Monday morning. Bird like straight from the plane. It's like so
spk_1: 57:58
much for museum. The trips of Vietnam that had to be at least a week and 1/2 2 weeks.
spk_0: 58:04
Asia. And it's really close to neighboring countries like Europe. Obviously haven't been to Europe in It's something that that's
spk_1: 58:11
that's in the cards. It's on
spk_0: 58:12
the cards, Bob. But yeah, one day.
spk_1: 58:16
Yeah. Whereabouts in Europe. Would you like to get a freakin hot man? Yeah. You want me to leave, bro? You should leave this vulva. We should leave soon. You're too kind, boy. It's You can? Yeah. Um we're in Europe, I guess. Like
spk_0: 58:35
Greece. Spain? Uh, Italy. Frantz, I'm not really keen on the UK I know. Um, I know it's just like a different sort of New Zealand day. The UK England? Yeah. There's exotic Eastern Eastern Europe school bar like boo Bulgaria and train and all
spk_1: 58:58
that. Also, what does it call
spk_0: 59:00
the Scandinavian countries? Finland. Greenland. And is it Amsterdam one? I don't even know
spk_1: 59:07
the Netherlands. So a lot of your colleagues are from these parts of the roads of the world that these parts of the world is Well,
spk_0: 59:13
no. So my colleagues there from English speaking countries like the United States, three UK, Canada, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia, those of the seven countries that are that we call native English speakers. And in Asia, those air there's a gold. If you're from those countries, they value you,
spk_1: 59:36
say those seven in particular.
spk_0: 59:37
Yep, those seven in particular. They value your education because they know it's a Western concept and they're welcoming. They're actually China's being zits, more open to information than ever before. Because we know China is being strict in their censorship. They only want, you know, they provide their own way of doing things. But actually they love
spk_1: 1:0:04
What is the Western way of thinking so highly valued?
spk_0: 1:0:07
Well, it's because they they think we're respectable, like they think with, um, gone to school with earned a degree. And we've spoken English because obviously English is the most mostly white and spoken,
spk_1: 1:0:24
most widely spoken language
spk_0: 1:0:25
and in the world, and I think Chinese people are all over the world, and if you roll all over the world, you are bound to be able to speak English, and in order to be able to speak English, you need to have English education, and that's what we bring, like, you know, that exposure that, um, that western concept off, you know, not only being stuck in your own uncultured view, but they're like how China is being more open minded about things. And I mean, I'm not saying it's just China, even Japan, bro, even to buy even, Um, you know, some parts of Europe, they value English. You know, like, if you can If you're yeah, if you've. If you've done your degree in England, are sorry if you've done your degree in education in a native English speaking country, you're valued a lot and respected a lot in Asia. And, you know, in Asia it's obviously, you know, the competition is high. And so if the competition is high and the value Europe there was like the wrestling with the world. But you're
spk_1: 1:1:35
you're really you're earning, like twice
spk_0: 1:1:37
as much as you are back home, and you're spending half the things you know. So obviously that's a no brainer about like financial is. It's just gonna come easy because cheaper earning more like what's well, you know what's that's? That's the goal, right? To earn more into spend less.
spk_1: 1:2:02
That's the golden formula.
spk_0: 1:2:03
That's the golden formula of it. Him again. It's not all about money.
spk_1: 1:2:07
Long term plans for Lindenberg. Well, what's what in the sights? Long term plans in terms off. Just life, man. Wait, What? What else do one of the already out here living your dream, But what else is there for you? Um, I actually
spk_0: 1:2:23
want to keep living and teaching abroad, um, away from New Zealand, not because of heightened use in I'm always gonna love using. And I'm always gonna be back. But just this experience for just this, Um but it's a big It's a big world out there. And New Zealand, such a small place and, um, as humble as you know, as New Zealand, his house more were like, we like to punch above
spk_1: 1:2:50
our
spk_0: 1:2:50
weight spur. And it's good to be a representative like to carry that that flag of ours. And, you know, when they spar when
spk_1: 1:2:58
they hear New Zealand,
spk_0: 1:2:59
it's like but doo doo sheeps and cows cross the road and you know it like, that's how they think. New Zealand. There's a bar, and it's just like,
spk_1: 1:3:07
Oh, yes, I mean, in some roads,
spk_0: 1:3:11
but that's the stereotype. Bow on. Dhe.
spk_1: 1:3:14
I've been asked the question. Do you guys speak English over there? What do you mean? Don't masses? No. But, um, one
spk_0: 1:3:22
day definitely. I'm gonna I'd like to settle down in New Zealand because all different home, it's It's home. It's So you grew up, Were you
spk_1: 1:3:34
different? Retire them in
spk_0: 1:3:36
museums. The place bar. It's
spk_1: 1:3:37
straight off
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freedom. Um, simplicity. Beautiful beaches. Five minutes, 5 10 minutes down the road, bro. In Asia, a beaches like luxury brah like
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I've seen some photos off like these Chinese. Like what? A water theme parks man. And they're just absolutely John Pac Man,
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absolutely burnt, like in New Zealand. Like we take it for granted bar like the pox
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I did. Man, like now living in Manila broke apart is its owes its nice thing going to the park and having a picnic, Not saying with the dogs playing with kids.
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Yeah, birds, different way of life. The pace of left and ages. It's another level burn. It's something that I cherish, and I accept because you're actually more productive, bird like as as we love New Zealand and as you know, as you know in New Zealand's like has a laid back type of culture and it's nice being able to just relax and chill, bro. You know, we have the chill as mentality, but like I think ever since going to, um, say China, all visiting the world of scenes like a different different style of pace and different style of work sittings. And it just makes me grateful and that I have experienced both, But I'm always gonna be, you know, I'm always gonna be New Zealand and that hot bro come back 11
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neighbor for I reckon being like an ambassador for New Zealand is quiet. It's quite humbling as all men, you know. Yeah, but there's a lot of what people think about the place. You know, it's beautiful, the sheep and the cows, like you said, but more or less, it's a beautiful place to be it. It's beautiful. It's absolutely so proud to say that you man like fucking it's also it was home, wrote
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it Sze clasp. Er it's it's right up there are hot. They value birthday value. US devalue. Our, um, a resiliency Barton. I think that's one of the community. Yep, that's that's That's the one it's proud to. We're proud to be. Q. Is Burt how Filipino New Zealanders or New Zealand Filipinos? However you want it? I wanna want to say it. That's how we are in. That's That's how jobs are like we're living overseas. But like
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we're like Filipino overseas. Or if that we used for you, it's like a part in this country. I'm the foreigner. Yeah, way. It's like a foreigner is buzzy,
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eh? Well, Bessie Bob, but it just I mean, it's it's good bar. It's It allows you to, you know, be more self aware of other cultures in makes Use it, man, and it makes you just adapt your ways. And but
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you're never
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gonna give way to your own values and morals as you learned in school, in your parents. But like it's just accepting and respecting other people's coaches. That's cool. I like I love mingling and getting to know different culture. Bards, probably one of the most humbling experiences, are like just being in their shoe. Like we read about books like Oh yeah, thats culture is like this. We watch it on TV and
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but Emerson is a different thing there.
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It's so fulfilling birds. It's hard to comprehend. It's hard to just describe the feeling we're like, Yeah, just
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the clothes off, man. You know, it's the to the young person out there, not even necessarily young person just to the person out there who is still in that process of making a decision in following the passions, making their dreams come true for like, What advice would you give to that over these
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heaps of advice is that I can give. But like Eric and like, one of the main things that stands out, um, is that if you want something that you've never had, you have to do something that you've never done far. So
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who said that? Quotable quotes. Who said that? Um, you said they broke. We created that to you and
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quote me. But so far, in order to be in tow to maximize your potential to maximize, um, yourself, you're your own capacity. If you're doing things like back home, it's Cobra. Like you know you're at peace, you're you know how things work and you know you're solid Bo museum and solid, but like if you if you wantto go out there and you reached the world, connect with other cultures and experience different types of food. And I mean, obviously, in New Zealand you can do that. But it's just really different bar like if you taste like Chinese food in China, it's It's nowhere near try Chinese food and Zeeland or no rockets were never bro. It's like each district or each region, and China has their own cuisine type. Yeah, each cuisine. And I just Yeah, it's just been amazing. It's And it's been an amazing experience, but yet humbling one that I'm never gonna you know,
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exchange for anything. Exchange.
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And yeah, it's just Yeah, it's been awesome. And I'm fully humbled and totally grateful, and and I wouldn't have done it without, you know, a lot of people out there that's supportive and, you know, even not supportive, you know, fuel that burns fuel that motivation have that motivation to inspire others borrow because you ever you need to you need to create for Kobe Bryant person piece man. He's like, you know, the most important thing is you know, you try your best. You do it, you're you do it for your not only for yourself, but for people and for them to continue that legacy that you brought for them into the next generation on to the so the you know, to the people in line after you, that's that's message, Bert. That's how the world change more. That's, you know, if you have a bigger impact. And if you've had a you know, even a small difference, like a little tiny, as I mentioned before, a confidence booster, you know that that will change
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your mindset, that little spark that changed the world change yourself change because your life is not meant to be lived in one place. You know that no matter what way still respect
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the people that you know that are still in their own
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ways. Way big ups to them. Continue. Continue to do what you do. Yeah, it's been awesome, but I just want to thank you, man, for giving me your time. But for joining us for a little. It's been amazing, eh? Thanks for having me. It's been a It's been a pleasure. It's been mine, man. Like all the best for you endeavors in the future bar And thanks so much for the message that you delivered toe listeners with this episode for us again. Bar really appreciate human straight up. Thanks for having me again.