| 011 | Discipline & Consistency Is Key

In this episode I sit down with Jesus Jay Labajo, Air Craftsman, Royal New Zealand Air Force. Buzzy episode as we talk about the events that lead up to his enlistment in the RNZAF, his decisions for doing so, and the opportunities that being in the Defence Force has given him. We also talk about the importance of consistency and discipline within the context of fitness. The mindset change that he applied towards his fitness goals also spilled over into the financial goals that he set for himself when he was just 16 years old. This was kickstarted by a random conversation he had with a client during his apprenticeship at one of the finest barbershops in Christchurch, New Zealand. 

As a result of this unshakeable frame of mind, he is now a home owner, playing the long-term investment game. He's on a rampage and doesn't look like stopping any time soon.

Transcript

Hezron:   0:00
in this episode, I sit down with Jesus Jail abajo, Air Craftsman, Royal in New Zealand, Air Force Buzzy episode As we talk about the events that led up to his enlistment in the Orange today, if his decisions for doing so and the opportunities that being in the defense force has given him, we also talk about the importance of consistency and discipline within the context of fitness. The mindset changed that he applied towards his fitness. Goals also spilled over into the financial goals that he set for himself when he was just 16 years old. This was kick started by random conversation he had with the client during his apprenticeship at one of the finest barbershops and Christ Church in New Zealand. As a result of this unshakable frame of mind, he's now a homeowner playing the long term investment game. He's on a rampage and doesn't look like stopping any time soon To supports a passion project, please consider subscribing to awesome Spotify, apple podcasts, Google podcasts or YouTube. You can find out more about the show into Passion project dot com. You can also support by purchasing a Passion Project T shirts. We've got a whole bunch of colors available, and each purchase helps keep the show afloat. If you're a farmer to Dakota car talk, my name is his Ron Alban. And welcome to to passion Project. It's a passion project is appalled. Cost aimed that there's people who are wanting to take that first step towards making it happen. Thank you so much for tuning in. And I hope you enjoy the show. We'll figure it out. That's all good. But, um, again, thanks so much for taking the time out of your day by t Join me, R v m. Following you on your stories where it looks like you're pretty busy. Morning.

Jay:   1:45
Yeah, yeah. Good. Pretty. Just trying to make the most of my lock down. Period, Brosa.

Hezron:   1:51
Yeah, Yeah, Same here by now. It's pretty crazy what's happening in the world right now, man.

Jay:   1:56
Yeah, but it's un riel, but, you know, you gotta take it as it comes. A

Hezron:   2:01
Yeah. Yeah, Well, just to start off the podcast bar, um, we went over what we're gonna talk about prior, but I'm, you know, just a couple of questions, will you, man? I'm still quickly. Boy, where were you born Where'd you grow up?

Jay:   2:15
Um, I was born in the foot veins. And later, Or milk later. Um, And then I moved here in New Zealand Move, dance, cross church When I was, like, about 10 years old. So, yeah, pretty much had my, like, teen years here in New Zealand. Like, in question. So yeah.

Hezron:   2:35
Yeah. And would you get a schoolbook?

Jay:   2:38
Um, I went to ST Beats college. Yes. I mean, let's go all the way here. That the

Hezron:   2:43
same V's Escalon, those those old boys? Yeah. Oh, boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, that's mean by, um, what did you do as a kid, man? Like, how'd you spend your time with G? Get up to much, uh, rascal activities.

Jay:   3:06
So pretty watchman like, um, back in the full of beans. I remember going back in the holiday, and all my friends were like, Oh, I remember you. You were, like, the biggest troublemaker in the school. Very much like clicking flights here. And there were, like, just I was, like, pretty much like the class clown. Um, just Yeah, I was like that troublemaker, like, real adventurous. So I guess, um, throughout high school? Yeah, man else are still the same. I was I got in trouble at school, and, um, just was a class clan for a very long time. It's just my personality, I guess. Like I like making people happy and like making found him last off, I guess. Um And I think that change around your 10 I think, Yeah, I think once n c a. Level one and two and three came up, I was like, Yeah, I need to change up such up. So yeah,

Hezron:   4:05
you put my nose down and start concentrating a little bit.

Jay:   4:07
Yeah, but I like hot out. Like that's pretty much me. I like I was like, No, I like I can't keep going like this or else I won't end up anywhere in luck. Which Yeah, which I'm so thankful like, if I could shake my like year 10 like Jesus Jane, I would

Hezron:   4:27
So speaking off, you know, changing it up in getting on track. Bo, what are you doing right now? Where has that straightening up? Where's the decision taking me today? But it

Jay:   4:39
would

Hezron:   4:39
be not to.

Jay:   4:40
I'm gonna air force now, boy. So

Hezron:   4:42
therefore that's pretty good.

Jay:   4:46
What is it?

Hezron:   4:48
Pretty gangster is what I was saying.

Jay:   4:50
Yeah, Yeah. You ever, um it's a career that I wanted to do, and that was a big thing for me. Um, through high school, I thought I was gonna be a builder bar. And I thought I was gonna be an architect. Like, um n c a level one and two and three of always, like, thought about my future and what I wanted to do. Um, yes. So at the stop, I want to do architecture and then and then building like I like being hands on. I like being active and like, I don't think I can see myself in, like an office involved. Um, yeah. And, ah, this guy came along and I during assembly one time and was like, hey joined the Air Force, and I was like, Oh, that sounds cool. Oh, yeah. And joined up. I mean, there's, like, a better stories between between high school and where I got to now, but I've made it happen.

Hezron:   5:51
Uh huh. So it was literally just like a recruitment guy coming along to one of your symbols that swayed your decision from becoming an architect or becoming a builder to join the Air Force.

Jay:   6:01
Um, not He was like he wasn't recruited. It was just one of the older boys that used to go to ST Beads and he came back. Okay. I like him. Yeah, and I was like, you cool. Except that something different And like, um, So I tried to do politics, and then I failed that, Like, I wasn't very good at, um, didn't pass the seabed and everything like that. So that set me back. That was your 13 fell there. And so I decided to be barbering for, like, two years and then try again after two years time.

Hezron:   6:36
So you're you're bothering boy like you. You had to take a course for that. Or what was the story behind that?

Jay:   6:41
Um, Not I mean, yeah, I had in the friendship. Um, pretty much. I've been cutting here since when I can like everybody here six, but I think that's when I started cutting my my

Hezron:   6:56
dad. Six. How old would you have been there, like, 12 years old?

Jay:   6:59
Probably. Yeah.

Hezron:   7:01
You're six. No, Sorry. 10 years old. That would be. Music's

Jay:   7:04
got another, and I come, my dad Mal is like giving me like these real trash pickup. Like, not this. I've had enough. I know the girls are coming up to me because of this haircut.

Hezron:   7:19
For I remember this one time I tried cutting more in here out of being about 13 or 14. So it's still young. But you know, you already getting to the age where you know between, like, what? Stupid and and what's not s o. I tried cutting my own hair, but there was was when, um when Luke McAlister was still playing for the old black SPO. And yet that mean, like, Scott's cut, But the army?

Jay:   7:45
Yeah. So

Hezron:   7:48
that's what I tried. That's what I tried imitating man. And it looked like complete trash on My dad got so mad at me, man, I had to shave my head after that, man.

Jay:   7:59
But you have are, like, that was the same as me t ball and do like the Scots cuts like, you know, like this. Like it the bag like

Hezron:   8:06
heaven look like a bloody sunflower, bro.

Jay:   8:10
Yeah, bar that That dragon ball Z stall. Barlow?

Hezron:   8:13
Yeah. Hot, hot, hot. So I'm No, no, Go ahead, bro. Is that

Jay:   8:20
but yeah, but I just like cutting at a young age And then through high school, all the people like you who cut you here. So I started coming. They're here? Yeah. Then by you 13 Um, word got around to let the barbershops and yeah, applied for a job. Mayor. But Marvel men up a man that barbershop and yeah, they accepted me for a friendship. And yeah, I trained there for two, two years, two years in a bit. Eso Yeah, and then I was quite passionate about it. So there was something I wanted to do.

Hezron:   8:55
Yeah. And so obviously, you're on the Air Force now, so that would have sort of being at the back of your mind why you stole barbering, Bo, ultimately, what made you, you know, pursue that instead of getting your certificate and opening up shop?

Jay:   9:11
Um, it's crazy bar because I was three months away from getting, like, qualified, like, fully qualified Marber. Um, but the opportunity to join the air Force came up and selection board waas pretty much like like, two months away or whatever. And I was like men, I enjoy barbering, but I just didn't see myself doing that for the rest of my life, if you know what I mean. And I have so much love for the craft I still doing. Now, I still come out here. I still cut other people's here and stuff, but I just didn't see myself doing it for the rest of my life. And I'm really big on enjoying my career. So, yeah, I made that choice. But I just jump ship. And I was like, Hey, I want to join the Air Force because the life's the lifestyle was like appealing. The job was appealing. It just, like, spoke to me, you know?

Hezron:   10:12
And so in the air Force were like, What are you doing now? Like, what role do you have? What's your Ah, your trade?

Jay:   10:18
Yes. So I'm a safety and surface technician. So I deal with all those survival equipment for the angels. So I deal would like parachutes life, Raph, Um, survival gear for pilots like helmets and like, um, like emergencies and everything like that. Just anything that the Air Force needs to survive. So, yeah.

Hezron:   10:43
Have you been son? Todd took a road

Jay:   10:45
bar. I wish, but it's one of my goals. It's one of my girls to go down to Antarctica like

Hezron:   10:51
because we're one of the few countries that, like goes goes down during a regular basis,

Jay:   10:54
right? Yeah. Are pretty much the Air Force like this. Quite a few people in the Air Force that's gone to talk to you already, which is amazingly, That's one of my girls.

Hezron:   11:05
What was like, what did they call Dick Elect? Bouquet? What's what's that? Like

Jay:   11:09
Rick Oracles, of course. You know,

Hezron:   11:14
in the movies of oil like they're crawling through mud and all that stuff. Yeah, yeah. Is that realistic at all? In terms of like, how the New Zealand military operates all,

Jay:   11:24
um, no, Like, I was quite disappointed in their gods because out when joining up I was like, Yo, I want a deal that crawling on the mud like I was drawn to my fitness time stuff. So I really wanted to do that, like real rough, like training style. You so did like the marching or the fitness stuff, but it was definitely a lot more toned down. Um and then, yeah, it's just kind of disappointed, and I guess wouldn't have Rickert course went, but I still enjoyed it It's one of the definitely one of the best three months of my life. But I woke up every morning and I was like, Let's go, yeah, it's a good

Hezron:   12:08
time That seat, that's pretty cool, man. The fact that you that you said that, you know, I was disappointed at first, but you still were able to wake up every day and say, Hey, let's go man Like that must be You must be feeling so lucky to be able to say that about what you do for work. Because not many people have are lucky enough to say that

Jay:   12:28
exactly. Brian, that's still the same feeling today. Like my trade. I still gotta work and I enjoy it. Like like I said before, I'm really big on enjoying my job, and that's what's driven me to do. The things that I do now, um, especially joined the Air Force. Yeah, man, I just woke up every day. I remember I would wake up like, five o'clock in the morning because we'd have to, like, iron my sheets and like our bed and stuff for, like, inspection like 6 a.m. And I just loved it. Ales, like just like me. Like another day. Like I was like, loving Just love.

Hezron:   13:04
Yeah. How quickly did you realize growing up men that you were more of a hands on learner? Because obviously barbering The air Force, these very hands on Endeavour's men.

Jay:   13:17
Um, at a very young age, I guess. Like in primary school, a licious trash ry. Good. Like I'm learning. Yeah, I just wasn't very good at learning. Sonya was more of a visual learner and my candle on top stuff.

Hezron:   13:38
I think that's that's quite tough for a lot of kids growing up, man. Is that for learners, that learning that way? Man, I feel like more needs to be done to cater to that sort of child.

Jay:   13:52
Yeah, definitely not everyone is the same. And then with education system is kind of broken, in a sense, because it doesn't get there for the different types of people.

Hezron:   14:04
Mmm. Because imagine of someone that you like. You see it? Imagine of you know, your your character, your personality got stuck into them office that's just arrested before disaster, bro.

Jay:   14:15
I about the catch. Khurana Mars said man. Um, look, Yeah, definitely suck. And you know what's rough roads that some people are in that price name. Yet some people have no choice. Or if the only thing they know so

Hezron:   14:37
And for me, men like I I I was in that hole like I was I was in that office environment. Andi was so tough, man. Because, like, I knew, there was so much other things that I wanna be I wanted to be doing with my life. And I just had to get out of their boat.

Jay:   14:54
Yeah, exactly. Like, ate you up. Like my parents wanted me to be, like, an engineer, or like, an architect or something. You know, like agent parents bar, like standard and standard go like they wanted you to be like, you know, hot professional, whatever. But also I I've always been that rebel rebel your skin cells like Not like I'm not going there. I'm doing what I love, and I'm

Hezron:   15:19
doing what? The Air Force man. That's the word. Pretty like still a very respectable career part that you've gone down, Bow like I've always looked at people working in uniform, and I've always admired that it looks real smartness Well, bro.

Jay:   15:36
Thank you. Bye. Yeah, Thank you.

Hezron:   15:38
cause I remember when you when you first graduated and you were wearing your uniform, You're the You're the hat. And you had the rifle. I was like, this did the same. The same kid that I grew up with, man.

Jay:   15:52
Yeah, but I, like, definitely like graduation was one of the best feelings ever. Like it was, like, three months off, like like training and everything leather. And then when you graduate, definitely felt like an emotional, um, accomplishment. You know, it was really amazing feeling just because I wanted to be there. And it's the place I wanted to be it in my lots of

Hezron:   16:19
and correct progression in terms off, like your air Force man. Like, where? Where can this take you in the next couple of years or so? Like within within the within the force. You jump out of planes coming coming up soon. Or What's the deal with that man?

Jay:   16:35
Um, nah, not for me, but I like personally, um, I'm more towards yet. Um, becoming a pilot was one of the things that I was interested in before I joined the Air Force. Months since being un, I've realized that it's, um doesn't suit me. You know, it doesn't state my top of lifestyle. I want and get this just where it is at the meantime, but definitely in my career, in the future, I wanna like, I don't know, obviously climb up the ranks and everything like that. And, um, even we must listen to some other, like trades, like helicopter loadmaster. Whatever. Yeah, there's plenty of trades you can jump into in the Air Force, and they really cater for you and just really look after you. Well, so the best place to be

Hezron:   17:35
Well, basically, you at at the moment.

Jay:   17:37
I mean, we're in

Hezron:   17:39
hock it. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, I love seeing your stories Where when you're at work and then all of a sudden, you're in Oakland cause, you know, based for new apply, You know, you just jumped on a jet. Yeah. You up there, just chill out. For But that's pretty exciting, man. Yeah, and the fact that you're getting paid to do this

Jay:   17:58
Yeah, like it's just one of the many benefits that the NFL is provide. Um, like, yeah, I get free flights from Palmerston North from the Air Force base here to the Air Force base up in Oakland. So let's like this saving me tons of money and other benefits. I like medical. And my it will That stuff, you know, dental. And they just look after your well, men like it's a great organization. And, yeah, I'm happy where I am at today, and that's what matters.

Hezron:   18:33
Mmm. ANZAC Day is coming up, Men. Do you reckon there's be There's gonna be anything ANZAC Day service is. Well, like this whole locked down things gonna really street. That'll up.

Jay:   18:46
We've heard bar that's been canceled, so yeah, it's a shame. But now it's gonna be can just cause of the whole Koran of our situation.

Hezron:   18:55
Mmm. Are is the Defense Force, like, involved at all with making sure that the people are in order? Or is that part of what you do as well?

Jay:   19:07
Yeah. So, um, we've been put in, like, past groups to help with the police and stuff. Just when the lock down started. Um, just making sure that people were at home, I guess. And I presently was put on like, a grip, and we just had to work like we had to be in Judy teens and stuff. So we're classes. Essential workers? Um, yes. Oh, my. In the last few days, I've just been at work and pumping out some, like emergency pics for the Air Force just so that they can drop them off for people there. And I need them.

Hezron:   19:49
Drop them off as in life, Drop him from planes all I just really?

Jay:   19:53
Yeah. Like supply job,

Hezron:   19:56
parachute, like in the movies.

Jay:   19:58
Yeah, I like in the movies. They're like in pub. Jeez. Uh

Hezron:   20:03
huh. So the whole social distancing thing like it's that serious that they can't even physically hand goods to other people That has to be

Jay:   20:10
dropped from the healthy bar like we have two senators are tools when we're at work and, like, keep like, two minutes distance where, like a mosque, like a face mosque and everything

Hezron:   20:22
this is This has changed the world, man, like we will be not suffering. But the repercussions of this event will be rippling on through for so many more years to come in.

Jay:   20:34
Definitely bar, I reckon cell. And it's tough times, but we're just gonna adapt to change a That's what we're good at being humans and stuff was just a definite change.

Hezron:   20:46
Speaking of adapting to change where your body's changed a bit since we first met, you put on a few pounds of muscle, my bruh, your your your your fitness man. So that's something that you hold dear to your heart as well, Bo. And you're lucky enough that in your line of work, Petey is is actually part of your your day, your working day.

Jay:   21:13
Yeah, yeah, man. So that's actually one of the reasons why I joined the Air Force because of the physical physicality. Topside. Top of things. Um, Yemen. I love fitness, so passionate about it. It's like, That's my Zen like when people ask me like wide like do do the things you do and it's like but it's my happy place, Like that's why I go to relax and, yeah, like, there's not I know a lot of people can like relate to that. You know, people don't like passion about fitness. You

Hezron:   21:50
fitness man. It's it's real important. Um, especially like in, ah, like holistic wellbeing and all that man that, you know, you need to make sure that you're physically firt mentally. Foot specially foot. Um I don't know if you know, but I actually worked for a gym here in the Philippines, and it was quite interesting how that all came up, man. So and when I first stepped in, just pull up us and rings in all that. So I mean, the thought of human cause calisthenics. That's a bit of your specialty,

Jay:   22:17
right? You know, like, if I saw that Robert E o yo, let's go. What property? Let's go now. Definitely by Kelis. Onyx is it's different. I tiu to weight lifting and what a lot of people do usually. But yeah, it's my thing is my jam like I don't lift weights purely body weight. And I love it is like amazing has changed my life. Hello. People say that it's changed my mind, anything, you know? Uh, yeah.

Hezron:   22:55
So it's purely body weight exercise that you're doing, and you're pretty jacked at the moment. Then

Jay:   23:02
we showed

Hezron:   23:03
you. Yeah, you get that pump on. Before we started recording

Jay:   23:09
i e.

Hezron:   23:15
I think we'll voices cracked. What's what's beautiful about progression and fitness men is that you can actually see it happening. Um, off. I think a lot of people get discouraged win progress when they sort of get when they hit a plateau. You know I can't lift anymore. I can't do an extra report of Ah, but I'm like you said your whole mind sets changes. Well, man, I think that's the biggest. Like when people can get from pursuing fitness A ll athletics or anything like that, man.

Jay:   23:49
Yeah, definitely.

Hezron:   23:52
And you know the discipline that's required, especially the movements that you performed by, um you know, it does sort of rewire your brain a little bit, and it carries on into other aspects of your life. What do you What? What do you reckon?

Jay:   24:07
Um, Eric. And that's so true. I like it's taught me to just be consistent, like, keep doing it every day, and eventually it'll get easier. Um, so with Gaston IX. So obviously he was You start off with, like, push ups and then push ups get easier. So you go with wide push ups and then declined push ups until you're doing, like, crap push ups, and then you're doing muscle ups, and then you're doing, like, crazy, explosive push ups. You know, um, that top of, um, principle is applied to my daily things now so you can stop like just now you're doing something with your job or something, and then it just easily. It just gets easier by day, and then you slowly progress to like better things. It's like each step you like climbing. And that's why I love consent is because that it makes me and allows me to grow like more. You know, like every every moment that I get better at something than there's another thing that I can get better on. And there is no limit like there's some crazy calisthenics people out there that can do, like one handstand push up like one hand like Dragon Ball Z styles. And I'm like huh? It's great, you know,

Hezron:   25:47
like like you said, like the progress that you make. It's very incremental that you can't just go from, you know, deciding to get off your butt one day toe, doing a muscle up the Knicks. That's very, very It's a slow. It's a slow pro. It's a slow process, right? Yeah, you're the it's like you're the turtle or tortoise and the hare like you're the tortoise in in this,

Jay:   26:12
and that's so true, man like it's taught me so much. Kostanic has taught me like patients and just consistency. Um, I've been working out, I realized, cause a lot of people ask me some had to think about it quite a bit. So I've been working out for eight years. Yeah, like it's, um it's quite a long time in. But if you look at my body now like, it doesn't look like I've been working at years. Um, just because it's Kelly cynics and it's a lot harder to build, um, body, way light, miming muscle through cost antics. But yeah, like I've been working out for eight years. And I think that's what people I need to understand is it? It takes time and the second me eight years to be able to be a handstand, push up or whatever, or like the stuff that I do now, like plants or front levers, like some people like, Damn, you make that look easy and I'm like Yemen. But I've had plenty of times failing, and I've had many of days where have been frustrated, but I just don't give up. So

Hezron:   27:26
I like what you said that when people look at what you're doing now that you make it look so easy. But what a lot of people don't see is is what's happening, like behind the scenes, like the amount of pain that you've had to go through to be able to just hold their hand stamp for however many seconds, amount of sweat, um, tears. Do you cry over the stuff out of momentum? The block. Like people, people realize people don't realize the sacrifices that you have to make in order to get thio way. Well, whether it is, you know, a handstand, push up will or, you know, getting that it forced, right Antarctica, whatever it is, man, there's a lot of sacrifice that goes behind Um, even even this podcast man like the sacrifice is obviously on as there's not much more. There's a lot less at stake compared thio going to Antarctica. But in principle, it's all still the same broad

Jay:   28:21
bird like don't say thatcause man like there's a lot for what you're doing this a lot behind the scenes like you're gonna edit the video. So you gotta set time up for this and you've got your own life too, you know? So this is extra hard work in the background. And that's what people don't understand is that there is time. There's a lot of when you're passionate about something you didn't care a lot of time towards.

Hezron:   28:46
And it's also very easy to end up in the trap of comparing yourself to other people in their successes. Have you ever seen that image off these two miners? They got the pick, axe and the like, digging away at the ground one dude, he gets like that little diamond real quickly, and then the other guy, like, looks at it. So he goes over to his hole and he starts digging, digging, digging, digging, digging. But what this guy didn't realize is that in his own hole, he was this close from a Byman that was that much bigger. Have you ever seen the image book?

Jay:   29:16
No, I haven't. I But pretty much

Hezron:   29:18
I'll send it to you. And, um but I think that just the lesson that that sort of shows is that men like, just stick to your stick to your path men, because you don't know how much more greatness is in store for you then, you know, jumping into someone else's track and start taking the

Jay:   29:37
Yeah, definitely end, because I can conduct relate that to I don't know how I started. Kind of Centex, I guess, is because at the start everyone was like lifting weights and everyone was like getting like big, you know? And I was like, Yo, I wanted to be I wanna be big, like I want to be, like, good looking and, like, treaded like there and all that stuff. But I was like, I was broke by the time I was broke. I was your last school student, then have a job. Sounds I'm gonna start working out at home, you know? And that's where it started. Started working out at home for, like, two years on, Ben. Eventually, Franco ascetics and I just talked to it. And those people that we're walking out before, like, yeah, like they found what they love. But eventually, through the path that I went through, I've found, like when I love to, because I reckon if I did weightlifting, I would easily have gotten bored. You know, um, but I've found, like, a passion through Cal cynics, and that's pretty much the same as your diamond analogy is that I didn't stop and I don't say, Oh, like he's getting mean results with his weight lifting, I'm gonna jump overto weightlifting like I kept going and Mullen took a is to get results that I am now like a lot of people are like, proud. You're afraid that I'm late now bar like I just sat just the body weights. It's a main flex like high key, but yeah,

Hezron:   31:17
like you said, man patients and consistency in terms of your craft or because the passion that you have for for Calista exports it just radiates a few men. People can see it, especially with your your instrument, because you've got a separate instagram dedicated. See to your fitness, right?

Jay:   31:33
Yeah. Yeah.

Hezron:   31:34
And you've built up a bit of a community. Both.

Jay:   31:37
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty

Hezron:   31:39
random. People are following and stroll as comments and stuff like that. That's very funny, man.

Jay:   31:45
Yeah, it's cool. I just started it off. Someone was like, Hey, you should make like an instagram page knows I or I'll give it a try, but yeah, pretty much just published some content at the inn just for me. I'm don't have a lot of time. Sometimes. That's why I'm really take loving this light lock down, period. Because I get to create a lot of content for my fitness and also for my personal life and stuff. But yeah, I've gotta finish. Midge is just Yeah, it's just this sitting

Hezron:   32:17
and there's literally no excuse toe take you know, your health into your hands and start doing something about it because you're literally working out in your living room, bro. Yeah, for some people, like, you know, that they've got to excuse Like like I live too far away from a germ. Jim's too expensive. What your Your equipment is literally gravity bar.

Jay:   32:40
They ever pretty much

Hezron:   32:42
devotees free.

Jay:   32:43
I just need a floor and maybe like a pull up bar or something. But yeah, that's the beauty of constant exes. You can do it everywhere in a way. And yeah, you can build muscle through it and you can get hella strong like amazingly strong, like people don't understand. Um, how strongly condemn it with just lifting your body weight.

Hezron:   33:07
It's also quite a functional form of fitness is on men because, you know, say, um, I don't know. So you need a climb, a fence or whatever the movements that you perform through calisthenics that those sort of carry over more to climbing that fence than, say, a bicep crow or whatever would Yeah, it's a bit more functional.

Jay:   33:27
Definitely definitely bar. And, um, that's one of my favorite things about kind of sentence is that it's a functional former fitness. And it correlates to I don't know if you're into fighting or if you enter, like extreme sports or something. Um, it just yeah, translate to everyday part movements and I loved it.

Hezron:   33:51
This is more of a mind game than anything else as well say, with for something like a handstand, you try. You try the first time you fell, he tried a second time. You fail again? What? How did you sort of have the mindset to just, you know, say I need to get this done? I need to keep going because if I just quit now, I'm never gonna hands then,

Jay:   34:12
um, pie pretty much at the start. I was the top of guy. So my mind said this not waas. I've always been so bad at handstands. I'm never gonna be able to perform handstands. That was my mom said to stop. But then I just started doing it every day and I Hell, you man, I failed so many damn times, like so many times. I thinkit's taking me, like, nearly 2 to 3 years to perform a handstand. I just don't give up. I'm like, today I'm gonna try a handstand. Give it a try it tomorrow, give it a try, and next day and I eventually got there. And then, um, people ask me like, Oh, how did you learn? The Hansen is like, Man, I just did not give up like that's the thing. And like I said, going back to that again, changing the months it, like, has changed my mindset. Like it's taught me that I was dead hence sets of the stop. But now I'm good. What did I do between them? You know, and I just stayed consistent. I worked hard. I put in the time and the effort, and that applies to everything in life. You know, if you're doing something, if you want to get a business going, then you do it every day and you, like, you know, put in the time and the effort on the grind. So Yemen, like Karsten Nick's Fitness, has told me a lot of amazing things that I use today in my life.

Hezron:   35:40
In a way, sometimes even like the whole mindset, is more important than just the sheer talent, the sheer strength off, being ableto just willpower and all that stuff. Man.

Jay:   35:50
Yeah, absolutely, man. Absolutely like the biggest thing that's like, for example, like a shredded guy on Instagram or something like I give them so much ups for even though he's not doing the stuff that I do like like Carson X or whatever he's doing weight lifting anything, therefore physique. I give them so much respect, Marcus. I also understand the amount of time it takes and the discipline it takes to get that shredded and to get to their physique. That's why a lot of people don't understand is that people just think that or he's vain. He's bubble blind like, you know, just hating, you know. But like everyone in the fitness community understands that it's tough work to be able to get to that physic you gotta put in the ground. You're gonna put in hours in the gym and Yemen. Some people do cry like some people do cry for that type of stuff, you know, because they love it. The passionate about it, and they're not afraid to express their emotions.

Hezron:   36:56
Mmm mmm. One thing in your life that also took a little discipline, a lot of time, A lot of patients is that room that you're sitting in right now. Men. So you said at the beginning that you wanted to become a builder. You've built yourself a home, bro. Like, tell us about that. Tell us about that.

Jay:   37:14
She, um

Hezron:   37:16
she Is she

Jay:   37:19
okay? Yeah. Then So I'm currently self us letting in my own home in my own house. And, um, I'm proud to say that because there's been a lot of hard work, like like years of hard work just to get to where I am now. Um, it started probably when I was 16. I remember when I first got my job and I didn't at the start, I spent a lot of money. It's like buying clothes, food, all that stuff you do with money, you know,

Hezron:   37:55
stupid shit.

Jay:   37:56
Yeah, but at a very young age, I think of the age of 16. I was like, Hey, I wantto do something with my life in the future. And I was like, I want to get into investing and I want to get into I want to get in and buy a house by the age of 21. And yeah, man, pretty much from that day on, um, I saved my money like most of my money towards something that main go off buying a house. Um, just so I can have a better future. Um, and fast forward. Five years later, at age 21 I eventually made it happen, man. So I It's obviously there's been a lot of, like ups and downs during that five years, but it's been a long five years, and I've got a house.

Hezron:   38:51
You've got a damn house broke.

Jay:   38:54
Yeah, it's been a lot of sacrifices, man. Like I remember I want to buy coal car like everyone did. And, you know, I wanted to, like, ride around in a cool car that I know and buy clothes. You can see my clothes back here, but I was client profession, profession, Thio and I literally had thio sacrifice something such as that Mike, I was like, Hey, man, stop buying clothes because I've got my mind setting a goal. And I want to do this so very thankful

Hezron:   39:30
Tea and and again, Roy, that that's That's something that I really look up to you about, man. Cause the discipline that you had in order to achieve these goals, bro, um, it's no easy feat, men.

Jay:   39:44
Thank you. Bye. Thank you.

Hezron:   39:47
And no homeowner. 21 in New Zealand bruh.

Jay:   39:52
Bruh with most has, like, a 1,000,000. I'm like,

Hezron:   39:58
so, Yeah, so do you reckon the discipline that you had, like with your fitness thing, That sort of carried on to the discipline you had financially?

Jay:   40:09
Yeah. Bar, um, I reckon definitely 100%. 100 and 10% men. Um, I guess I've been always been quiet. Proud. Oh, the men of discipline of Head. Anyway, like once I put my mind's into something, I know I'm gonna achieve it night Like no hesitation in my mind. I don't know when or how, but I just know I'm gonna do it. And they're like that. The involves fitness by investing in my workplace. You know,

Hezron:   40:49
I remember when we were chatting a bit last week, man. I don't know how much you wanna touch on this, bro. Um, you said that you're looking at locking down a second property road. Oh, what's happening there, man? Is that Is that still on the cod's or considering what's what's happening in the world or walk, bro?

Jay:   41:07
Um, you actually haven't told people. Oh,

Hezron:   41:12
shit. All right. Oh, all

Jay:   41:14
right. Wait, wait. I

Hezron:   41:20
don't have to put this in men. We can We can touch on something else

Jay:   41:22
now. It's cool. It's cool that I'm happy to bring it up, but yeah, I haven't told people yet. Um, I only told my family, not

Hezron:   41:31
Djibril. I don't I don't have to put this in. It's just something that just came up. Yeah, that's cool. Um,

Jay:   41:39
I'm happy with it. Out of mine.

Hezron:   41:42
All right, Stocks just hold our stocks like stocks, bro. You're you're playing with stocks as well. That's how you sort of built up your deposit toe to get to get your home.

Jay:   41:52
Yeah, um, so I at the age of 18. 19 when I was barbering, I I was just saving my money away in the banks, so I had quite a bit of money in the bank saucing a headlight 15 k in the bank, just like sitting dear, not getting anything, not making money or anything about it. So I started researching like ways to make your money grow. And then I did like investing different types of light. I even got a permit scheme, Brian One point, like you know, And I was like, tried different things. I did like option trading union. I did stock markets. So I researched stock markets, and I was quite fortunate because through my barbering job, I worked in my rebel area writing That's world rich people are, and I would cut a lot of business owners and a lot of, um, lawyers and all their stuff. And one time I cut like a stockbroker's here. I was like, Hey, what do you do? And he's like, I'm a stockbroker and I'm like, Whoa, what's theirs. I got trade in the stock market and all that stuff, and I'm like, Hey, you know, like, what's up? Like, I want to get into this. Um, can we meet up one time and, yeah, we made up like that weekend. I talked to him. He explained everything to me, and I've already studied, You know, I've already put in the hard work. So I already understood what he was saying. It's like him. And you seem like you're pretty on Senate. Tow it, Like doing like, putting your money, and we'll put it in some investments and stuff. Smells like bar. Like I've been waiting for you to come to my life. Like like, Yeah, I just talked. I just chucked all my savings towards it. And Dad been doing that since 2018. I'm I'm more of a like, um um, a long term investor. When it comes to stocks, I don't date trade or anything. I just put it in there and utilize like aven dollar cost averaging and Mike calm pounding and everything like that.

Hezron:   43:58
It's It's quite interesting what you said about that you were waiting for this guy to come into your life because no, but you weren't waiting, Man let you proactively like Asa Skye. What? He got up to what he does for work. And you said he's a stockbroker And you took the initiative to say You know what? Let's meet up. I want to learn more about the stuff. Um, that's what I love men like, you know, you're taking the initiative to go out there and grab something. Do you know what I mean? And we just need more people need to do that, not be afraid and actually to just grab should get it done.

Jay:   44:30
Yeah, I reckon I I reckon by like, that's the quality that I'm so grateful about. Is that Yeah. Just, like, just grab it. I If an opportunity comes up, just grab it. And yeah, like, I will go back to the whole second house because that's the whole make it relates in it because, you know, right now you understand the hook around of our situation. And, um, there's, like, a lot of certainty in the market, but I've done my study and I've done my research. So in the last five weeks, nearly two months now, bar, I've been gone open homes. I've been I've been looking for the right house and I've put offers like in a few houses here, and then some of them got didn't get accepted. But, you know, you just take your shot and see if something sinks in, and then eventually brought her out of nowhere. Um, so I went on a conditional contract yesterday on Monday. No, Tuesday. So two days ago, I went on a conditional contract for another house. So I'm gonna road for a second house, and I'm excited for it. Like Like it's mean

Hezron:   45:48
my man. And see, like that's something that is so out of reach for some people at the moment, like all owning the first home. Like, I don't even know where to begin. No. Like you said, the sacrifice that you made, you know, maybe I might not get the coffee today, maybe, and might not get the Oreo Mcflurry with the extra warriors that cost extra 50 cents. These little things add up over time, right?

Jay:   46:14
Yeah, Definitely.

Hezron:   46:15
That 15. 15 k. You said you had at the beginning like that Just didn't drop out of the sky.

Jay:   46:20
Yeah, definitely. Like, I just had to be quite frugal and smart about my money. I mean, I still I still had a normal, like, teenage life, right? I still went to clubs like, You know, me. I love my clubbing and stuff, and I still enjoyed my life and my time and my money, but I would set up part like away, like a certain budget for that type of stuff. And then I would save the rest So I don't

Hezron:   46:50
like what they

Jay:   46:51
ed like. Nature is wouldn't go out and spend money like I just

Hezron:   46:57
did it

Jay:   46:57
with my life. Yes, and Tom? I was smart about it, you know?

Hezron:   47:01
Yeah, Like what? Dave Ramsey says a. The earning, owning a house is the new flicks, Burning Houses and you, BMW. Much That's a grateful man like

Jay:   47:17
it's yet It's It's amazing. They were just like I'm super grateful.

Hezron:   47:28
It's obviously also not a journey that, you know, you undertook on your own is all. You had some support networks. Yeah, this guy that you met up parents obviously would have had. Ah, big part to play as well.

Jay:   47:40
Yeah, definitely. Like a, um I just met a lot of people that, like, help me along the way. And I'm so thankful for them. Every one of them who taught me the things I have and yeah, just glided me. I guess

Hezron:   48:01
you seem to have set yourself out quite well, bro.

Jay:   48:04
Thank you, man. Thank you. I'm just trying to build a future. Brian. Like I said, it all comes down to, um I want to enjoy my life and I wanna have freedom, do the things that I want to do. So that's been like a big thing in my whole life journey is that I want to do the things that makes me happy and the things that I want to do, like parents would like. I'll go to uni and I was like, I'll be barbering see how this goes. And then I did like the Air Force because I loved it. You know, I do calisthenics because I love it like and I do investing because I love it like some people are like men, don't you? Hey, what do you do, like study like all this time and all that stuff? And I'm like Broadway this time, like I love it like it's my grind I'll actually get home from. So this is how my day works. I get home, I finish work at 4 30 then I go to the gym for like 11 hour 1.5. I go home and eat, and then I just from seven o'clock toe 10. I just study Mike. My investments and it all comes down to, like, hard work you put in the background is that no little people know that I spend that much time during my week. Just do, like, snotty young on my investments, you know? And that's the thing is like, Yeah, there's a little hard work on the scenes.

Hezron:   49:41
That's amazing, man. Like, that's actually so gangsta broad.

Jay:   49:44
Thank you. Bye.

Hezron:   49:46
Um, what's it called? You know, Um, yeah, just the whole enjoy life. You know, you just outlined several clear cut things that you enjoy doing and that you love. Um, I think what a lot of young people sort of fall into the trap to in is enjoying life is like, you know, YOLO, like, you know, go to a party, get wasted. Whatever. Um, you know, just doing stupid things and being reckless with cash. Um, I think you're like you've struck a pretty pretty solid formula. I think more people just need to be, have discipline, man and and and know what they really want in life. Yeah. Um, but what what would you say to the to the person who isn't so sure what they want to get out of out of life men. And, you know, they're sort of in a rut. Basically, Like again. What would you have told yourself is a kid like, Hey, little shit. This is what's gonna happen is what you need to do. Please so much Ossan. And just be straight.

Jay:   50:59
Yeah, um, to the low Jesus, I would just say, like, think about the future. You know, be a visionary. Think about your future, live in the moment. But think about the future. You know, you're gonna set yourself up and I'm told the people at the like that's struggling to find what you want to do. Just, um, take the five time and just think about it. Contemplate, you know, like it all comes down to contemplating and thinking about what you actually want to do. Like, find it. Start searching. I feel like a lot of people just walk through life, not, um, not being able to find the thing that they want to do because they're not looking for it. You know, they're just walking aimlessly. So look for the forest head towards the forest, so at least you have a goal and you have a direction in life. Um, Yemen. Just do it and just start work. Walking like mad action. Like first you get just gonna No. What? You're Golders, which is finding it. So you think you think, what do you want? What do you want to do in life? What do we want to be? And five years time, That's where you're looking for the forest. And then you just start taking action like legit Tomorrow, the next day you just take action like our I want to be a doctor, the study or whatever you know, or I want to get into car. Cenex, do my first bush up tomorrow, start walking towards their forest And that forest man, you'll find, like med treasure. You're fine, like civilization. You find what you're looking for, one that for us. As long as you're looking for their forest, then you will find it. Yeah, it's pretty much it, man.

Hezron:   52:56
A lot of people when they're looking for that forest, I think there is a lot of discouragement because they've got, you know, these grand plans, these massive goals for themselves, which is that forest that you're talking about But then all they see elect the little little details, like all the leaves are falling off the trees. So that force is dead or whatever. You heard that saying that doesn't let you know five seconds ruin your whole day. Yeah, I think, um, when it comes, like gold sitting, say, for example, life for me, it was to become a pilot, right? It is to become a pilot. And for right now, like it's kind of up in the air. At the moment, my application processes is put on hold, close off the whole quarantine and locked down and allow that sort of stuff. But I'm they're always gonna be like little hookups and life men that will get in the way between that will get in the way between you and what you want to achieve. And pretty much man like like you said. But I just don't lose sight of what it is that you want to do. Um, it's so easy to quit and to say, you know what? Oh, to hell with this, uh, this pain, the sacrifice. Um, it's not worth it. Yeah, it's not worth it. Hell, no. It is worth it. right? I mean,

Jay:   54:19
yeah,

Hezron:   54:19
you're sitting in your sitting in their house, man, you

Jay:   54:24
hell Yemen like the amount of times I've thought about giving up, and I just didn't. And like I said, a place of fitness. If I stopped doing perhaps because I hurt, I wouldn't be doing muscle ups. And I wouldn't be doing handstand push ups if I gave up like saving because I want to go out with the friends or I give in to the temptation of buying that car. I wouldn't be sitting in this house now, You know, if I gave up two weeks ago when I got turned down for an offer for in house for a house, like if I was like, Oh, I really wanted the house. But I got turned down. If I gave up, then I wouldn't have found the house that I have that I'm trying to go for now. You know, like a man like, you know, the saying, Like, just get backup, man. When you get when you get knocked down, just get back up, like, straight up,

Hezron:   55:15
straight up trail.

Jay:   55:17
Keep going, eh? And

Hezron:   55:19
I think we constantly need to be reminded to just keep going. Yeah, um, again, like Windows, windows, so much noise in life. And it's so much, you know, B s coming at you from every which angle. Um, it does take a strong, strong willpower toe. Overcome that and to say, man, I would not let anything get in the way.

Jay:   55:50
Yeah, definitely. And, um, for example, you can apply it now in a current situation. Would Corona virus like, um, a lot of people are, I guessed, being like, oh, I'm stuck a home I can't continue. The things I'm doing is like, man like, yeah, you can You just gotta be flexible. You gotta adjust. You're gonna like, you know, just work your way around this This always another way. There's always another way and get and let's take a lot of mentality like, um, mental fortitude and willpower to get up again. But every time you get up, man, like you're like, Oh, I did that, I got up. I'm gonna do it again tomorrow So it does get easier. It does get easier, and this gets like down a lot all over the place. And but that's how it does. It does get easier The more you do something, the more it gets easier.

Hezron:   56:52
It's like super sayings by the closer they come to death, the stronger they come back the next time they're going to bed over three amount of the amount of times that Vagenas sat down in that bloody chamber. You know that close to dying, but he's just come back stronger. Mofo,

Jay:   57:11
Super sideways buyer go super sign on. And

Hezron:   57:17
that just goes back to the amount of time and to the amount of discipline that you gotta put into a pursuit part because you know, when when the guy step into the hyperbolic time chamber, that's years that they're spending in there, like literally years. Probably exactly none of this. None of this comes overnight. Unless, of course, there is a real hyperbolic time chamber you go into today. Come out two more. A couple of years have passed, but on it's just time, bro. It's just time putting, putting, putting, putting value on your time. Um, in the last episode that I have with Michael Fortune, Bo was so appropriate that his name is Fortune, Andi said. For a time, it was a good one, bro. That one you know, give time. Time is what he said. Like, just let it. Let's let it do its thing. Like, just focus on what you're here to focus on and you know it'll it'll sort itself out.

Jay:   58:15
Exactly. Bar exactly time I love it by you gotta value your time. If you value your time by everything pretty much fools in line like you will prioritize the things you want to do. Um, you will do the things you want to do because you know that time is very limited. Time is for me, time is the most important currency in the world. I don't care about money or anything like that. I care about time, man. Like, time is so important to me. And I dedicate a lot of my time to the things I love, such as working out and my investing and the people I love, you know, and

Hezron:   59:00
it reflects. It reflects itself. Men like all these results, Um, that, you know, we've been talking about in terms off of your life that has come about, you know, because off the time a discipline that you put in tow away these endeavors that you've had, bro.

Jay:   59:20
Yeah, definitely believes.

Hezron:   59:23
And again men like because we've known each other for for a number of years. But we were before puberty. Boys. It's when we like, like, the amount of, like, caca. Uh,

Jay:   59:38
Elyse? Yeah,

Hezron:   59:39
we were wayward. Joker's boom.

Jay:   59:44
Yeah, it's funny, I how long Far we've come. And it's like again, this time by a lot of people can change my

Hezron:   59:55
for better or for worse.

Jay:   59:57
Yeah, definitely. And again, it's up to them. And it's up to that person to make a change. Like now it's never too like And I always tell this to people, um that asking me, like all But how did you do this? How did you do that? Um and I tell them Don't compare yourself to me. You're in your own timeline. You're doing you You're in your own rice, and I'm in my own race. You're winning your rice, and I'm winning my rice. Just make sure you're running straight for the finish line, man. And yeah, Mike, don't compare yourself to others, because once you start doing that, you start insulting yourself. You know, I never compare myself to others. I'm I'm focused on my own lane and I'm doing this, you know? And Yeah.

Hezron:   1:0:53
Just gotta keep going, man.

Jay:   1:0:55
Yeah, winning my own rice. It was like,

Hezron:   1:0:58
best speed

Jay:   1:0:58
and pull. There's, like businessmen out there. For example, that KFC guy I don't know his name is, but he made cave, See, when he was like, I don't know how, like, 16 years old or something. I don't know.

Hezron:   1:1:09
Colonel Sanders, boy.

Jay:   1:1:10
Yeah, like everyone's on their own timeline. Don't ever, ever compare yourself a like That's the worst thing you can do because you lose track of your forest because you're looking at someone else's for us. So you're heading towards there and then what's in that forest isn't for you, it's for them. So just look at your forest bar, fund your forest and find the treasure in the

Hezron:   1:1:36
force. Boom. You heard of him? She she by my men. Um, again, I am so thankful for your time, bro. Um, you know, it's been a long time in between drinks, Po, but, you know, hopefully once this asshole wants this whole situation sort of want wound down the book, I'll come back to museum, but we'll have a few on Duh. Well say choose Thio boys,

Jay:   1:2:11
thank you for I'm getting me on the show and, like, I'm like 100% supportive fuels in the show. Bob, this court costs and stuff and I love that Like like inspiring all these young kids out here to just hear, like other people's stories and individuals, individuals like their own journey and stuff. Just so its spots something and a little. The young people and I love them and you are you doing

Hezron:   1:2:43
We're like, Not even necessarily just the younger people. Even people who are sort of a bit Maur further on in their timeline, who are still yet to figure things out. You know, it's even aimed at Dembo. Like you said, Don't compare yourself to whoever or anything. But again, um, I need to get back to New Zealand soon, and we'll toss a few back or toss a few long whites.

Jay:   1:3:06
No hostiles who tells him

Hezron:   1:3:12
what you have. Ah, appreciate human